Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the search for examples of absolutely continuous functions on the interval [a,b] that possess unbounded derivatives. Participants explore specific functions, their properties, and the implications of their derivatives' behavior.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- One participant presents a function, f(x) = x^2sin(1/x^2) for x ≠ 0 and f(0) = 0, noting that while it is continuous and has an unbounded derivative, it is not absolutely continuous.
- Another participant suggests a different function, f(x) = x^2 sin(|x|^{-3/2}) for x ≠ 0 and f(0) = 0, claiming it is absolutely continuous and provides its derivative.
- A question is raised regarding the integrability of the derivative of the second function, specifically how to demonstrate that it is Lebesgue integrable despite being unbounded.
- A follow-up response asserts that the derivative is measurable and outlines a method to show that the integral of its absolute value is finite, providing a detailed calculation.
- One participant expresses gratitude and reflects on the relationship between Riemann and Lebesgue integrability, acknowledging a common misconception regarding unbounded functions.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach a consensus on a single example of an absolutely continuous function with an unbounded derivative, and there are differing views on the integrability of the proposed derivatives.
Contextual Notes
The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of the functions and their derivatives, as well as the conditions under which integrability is assessed. Specific mathematical steps and definitions are referenced but not universally agreed upon.