Abs Continuous Function w/ Unbounded Derivative on [a,b]

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for examples of absolutely continuous functions on the interval [a,b] that possess unbounded derivatives. Participants explore specific functions, their properties, and the implications of their derivatives' behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a function, f(x) = x^2sin(1/x^2) for x ≠ 0 and f(0) = 0, noting that while it is continuous and has an unbounded derivative, it is not absolutely continuous.
  • Another participant suggests a different function, f(x) = x^2 sin(|x|^{-3/2}) for x ≠ 0 and f(0) = 0, claiming it is absolutely continuous and provides its derivative.
  • A question is raised regarding the integrability of the derivative of the second function, specifically how to demonstrate that it is Lebesgue integrable despite being unbounded.
  • A follow-up response asserts that the derivative is measurable and outlines a method to show that the integral of its absolute value is finite, providing a detailed calculation.
  • One participant expresses gratitude and reflects on the relationship between Riemann and Lebesgue integrability, acknowledging a common misconception regarding unbounded functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single example of an absolutely continuous function with an unbounded derivative, and there are differing views on the integrability of the proposed derivatives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of the functions and their derivatives, as well as the conditions under which integrability is assessed. Specific mathematical steps and definitions are referenced but not universally agreed upon.

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What is an example of an absolutely continuous function on [a,b] whose derivative is unbounded?

I know that the function f: [-1,1] defined by f(x) = x^2sin(1/x^2) for x ≠ 0, f(0) = 0 is continuous and its derivative f'(x) = 2xsin(1/x^2)-2/xcos(1/x^2) for x ≠ 0, f'(0) = 0 is unbounded on [-1,1]. But this function isn't absolutely continuous...

Any help would be much appreciated : )
 
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We can construct another example along the same lines. Consider the following:

f(x)=\begin{cases} x^2 \sin (|x|^{-3/2}) & \text{if }x \neq 0 \\ 0 & \text{if } x=0 \end{cases}

Computing the derivative yields:

f'(x) = \begin{cases} 2x \sin (|x|^{-3/2}) - \frac{3}{2} \operatorname{sgn}(x) |x|^{-1/2} \cos(|x|^{-3/2}) & \text{if } x \neq 0 \\ 0 & \text{if } x=0 \end{cases}

Since the derivative is integrable on [-1, 1], f is absolutely continuous on that interval.
 


Thank you for your help. One question: How I do know that the derivative of that function is integrable? If f' were bounded, then the fact that it is only discontinuous at x = 0 would make f' Reimann integrable, and Reimann integrability implies Lebesgue integrability for bounded functions. But in this case, f' is not bounded, so how do I show that it is Lebesgue integrable?
 


f' is obviously measurable, so you only have to show that the integral of the absolute value is finite. But we have:

\begin{align}\int_{-1}^{1} |f'(x)| \ dx & \leq \int_{-1}^{1} 2|x| |\sin(|x|^{-3/2})| + \frac{3}{2}|x|^{-1/2} |\cos(|x|^{-3/2})| \ dx \\ &\leq \int_{-1}^{1} 2 + \frac{3}{2} |x|^{-1/2} \ dx \\ & = 4 + \frac{3}{2} \int_{-1}^{1} |x|^{-1/2}\ dx \\ & = 4 + 3 \int_{0}^{1} x^{-1/2} dx \\ & = 4 + 6 \sqrt{x} \Big\vert_{0}^{1}\\ & = 10 < \infty \end{align}
 


Aha. Thank you! I knew that if a bounded function is Reimann integrable then the Reimann integral and the Lebesgue integral of the function are equal. However, I always forget that this can be extended to unbounded functions as long as the Reimann integral is finite.

Thanks again!
 

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