Acceleration of vehicle when given torque to the wheels

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a vehicle based on the torque applied to its wheels, with specific values provided for torque and mass. The subject area includes concepts from dynamics and rotational motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the formula F=ma and explore the relationship between torque and force. There are attempts to convert units and apply different formulas, such as F=Torque/radius, to find acceleration. Questions arise about the meaning of units and the correct application of formulas.

Discussion Status

Some participants are seeking clarification on their understanding of the relationships between torque, force, and acceleration. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of torque and its conversion to force, with suggestions to approach the problem symbolically. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note the need for additional information, such as the wheel radius, and discuss the implications of using specific units in their calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem and the constraints of time due to other academic commitments.

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Acceleration of vehicle when given torque to the wheels...

Ok so I am trying to figure out the acceleration of a vehicle that has a maximum of 381ft lbs of torque.With a mass of roughly 1700kg. If I use the formula f=ma, a=f/m and if I convert ft lbs to Nm its roughly 517/1700=.30m^2/s^2?

what does meters squared/ seconds squared mean?

then I tried F=Torque/radius, which led me to 1850/1700=1.09m/s^2??

right now I am just throwing stuff out there, I am confused at this point, so anything to help clear this up would be great...

Also, once I find the acceleration, I need to find the time the vehicle would take to travel 402.336meters...

thanks sooooo much for anyone who replies.
 
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I think some more info is needed. Is there a wheel radius?
 


the wheels have a radius of 0.3048meters
 


I think you should try doing this problem symbolically. You seem to be getting caught up using the wrong numbers and losing track of your units. Try leaving your variables as F, a, r, etc. and see if you can't find an expression for F.
 


do you know if I am somewhat on the right track at least?
I think I am mixed up with the F/m=a units... but I don't know really how to work with the radius... I am really trying to figure this out as quick as possible but I am trying to get another physics project done so if you could give me a hint or something to go on.
 
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my professor said using F=ma is fine for torque but does that mean that I show torque as Nm or do I have to some how convert it to N by dividing Nm by the radius of the wheels, to use as the force?
 


The units of torque are force*distance. You don't convert it to force, you find the force the torque creates.

But yes, that is the idea. Torque divided by radius of the wheels will give the horizontal force that the wheels exert on the axle, assuming the wheels don't slip on the pavement.

Here's how I thought about it: If, at any given instant, the wheels aren't slipping, then that means the point where the wheel touches the pavement isn't moving with respect to the pavement, or with respect to us watching the car from the roadside. If that point isn't moving, it would be sensible to pick that as the pivot point. Then, the force that the wheel is exerting is Torque divided by the distance from that pivot point. There's an axle directly above the pivot, and it's a distance r away. So, torque divided by r is the forward force the axle is feeling.

Always start by finding a good pivot point!
 
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so I have the right idea of taking the torque/wheel radius
which I then would divide by the mass to get the vehicle acceleration?
Units being m/s^2?
 


Haha, yeah...do you really need my help with Newton's 2nd? I think you can probably handle it from here.
 
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:) Thanks man
 
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My pleasure!
 

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