What is the Acceleration of a Vehicle at Different RPMs?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a vehicle at different RPMs, specifically at 3000 RPM and 5000 RPM, given the engine power output, car weight, and wheel diameter. The problem involves concepts from mechanics and vehicle dynamics, including power, torque, and acceleration calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for torque and force based on engine power and RPM, with some questioning the handling of the transmission ratio. There are attempts to verify the correctness of the acceleration calculations and the implications of the transmission setup.

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Some participants have provided insights into the calculations, particularly regarding the transmission ratio's impact on torque. There is a recognition of differing results among participants, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the correct approach.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the interpretation of the transmission ratio and its effect on the calculations. There is also mention of the assumptions made, such as neglecting losses in the system.

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Homework Statement


Find the Acceleration of a vehicle at 3k rpm and 5k rpm.
At 3k the engine produces 65hp. At 5k it produces 155hp.
Car weight is 1000kg. The wheels are 50cm in diameter. The engine is connected to the wheel via 2:1 ratio transmission. Neglect any losses.

Homework Equations


kW = HP*0.7457 Nm (torque) = (kW*9550)/RPM
Total Newtons =Nm*(Gear ratio) / Tire Radius in meters
Acceleration: MA = F ... Total Newtons / Car weight.

The Attempt at a Solution


kW = 65*.7457 = 48kW 48*9550/3000 = 154Nm (torque at 3k rpm)
154Nm*2/.25m = 1232N
MA= F... F/M = A 1232N / 1000 = 1.232MS^2 but for some reason that doesn't seem right. Others are getting different results so I'm not sure whos wrong.

The 5k is the same formulas so no point of posting that as well.

Thanks for reading.
 
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Looks like you forgot to account for the transmission ratio.
 
billy_joule said:
Looks like you forgot to account for the transmission ratio.
The Transmission ratio is the 2nd number.

154Nm*2/.25m = 1232N 154Nm * 2 since 1:2 tranny doubles the torque / the leverage of the tire. No?
 
Triple88a said:
The Transmission ratio is the 2nd number.

154Nm*2/.25m = 1232N 154Nm * 2 since 1:2 tranny doubles the torque / the leverage of the tire. No?

Ah, I missed that. In that case I'd agree with your answer.

Triple88a said:
The engine is connected to the wheel via 1:2 ratio transmission.
I guess this could be interpreted (incorrectly IMO) as:
engine:wheel = 1:2
Which results in a ridiculous road speed of 942 km/h @ 5000rpm
 
For what it's worth, I get the same answer by a different route.
3000rpm=50rps, or 25rps at the wheels.
25π0.5=39m/s (about 140kph)
F=P/v=48kW/39m/s=approx 1200N.
 
Is the Acceleration in M/S2 correct?
 
Triple88a said:
Is the Acceleration in M/S2 correct?
making my calculation in post #5 a little more accurate, 1230N. 1230N/1000kg=1.23m/s2.
 
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