According to our weather person, Fall starts on 9/23/11, How?

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Fall officially begins with the equinox, which typically occurs around September 22 or 23, not September 21. The confusion arises from the Earth's elliptical orbit and the varying lengths of seasons, influenced by its distance from the sun. Time zones and Daylight Saving Time also play a role in the timing of the equinox. Historical data shows that the equinox can fall as late as September 24, with the next occurrence on September 21 projected for 2092. Understanding these factors clarifies why the start of Fall may not align with simple calendar divisions.
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Based on what I think I know, the Earth completes one full orbit of the Sun in approximately 365.25. Every four years we have a Leap year that adds one day. This I understand. What confuses me is how can Fall begin more than 24 hours after 9/21/11 23:59:59.

I remember after submitting that I didn't taking into account time zones. I live on the East Coast and we our on DST and next year we have a Leap Year
 
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The average date of the Fall equinox is Sept 22 or 23, not Sept 21. This is really just a matter of counting days in our calendar months, and equally dividing the year into four quarters.
 
Thanks mesosphereman, I never thought of that
 
It is a little more complicated than dividing the calendar into 4 slices, as the slices are not of equal length or number of days. March equinox to June solstice is around 93 days, the same for June solstice to September equinox. From Sept equuinox to December solstice it is about 90 days, and again the same for december soslice to the March equinox.
The reason being is that the Earth's orbit is an ellipse, and when the Earth is farthest from the sun during the northen hemisphere's summer, it revolves a bit more slowly than during the winter in the northern hemisphere.

A good site that explains the equinox and the solstice is
http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/september-equinox.html
 
Thanks 256bits

That is a great site. I added to my favorites

I notice that they had some Septermber equinox as late as September 24th in 1931 and that the next time it will be on September 21 is in 2092.
 
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