Adding vectors algebraically to find displacement

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The discussion focuses on the process of adding vectors algebraically to determine displacement in a physics context. The user is confused about incorporating a vector that is due west, questioning the vertical displacement. Participants clarify that the vector has no vertical component and emphasize the importance of correctly identifying angles for each vector. They guide the user to write out the vector equations and correct the angles for accurate calculations. Ultimately, the user gains clarity on the problem and expresses gratitude for the assistance received.
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Hi everyone,
I am taking a physics course this year and I find myself already looking for help unfortunately. I think I understand the basics of adding vectors using Ax = A cosθ , Ay = A sinθ, etc. I am getting confused with the 3rd leg of the trip though. Since it is due west wouldn't that mean there is no vertical displacement? How can work that into my equation?

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Ax = A cosθ
Ay = A sinθ
...
R = √Rx2 + Ry2

The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried using the previous formulas to solve it but i get an answer of ≈320km. the back of the book says it should be 245km. could someone walk me though this? Thank you!
 

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Hey Kevin ,
In the picture I have uploaded you can see
that
(*note the symbols in bold are vectors)

r =a + b

, subsequently
R= c+r
 

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What you want is \vec{R} = \vec{a} + \vec{b} + \vec{c}.
Write out the vector equations for each of \vec{a}, \vec{b}, \vec{c} and then add them together. This will give an eqn for \vec{R}

Using |\vec{R}| = \sqrt{R_x^2 + R_y^2} will give you it's length.
Can you find the angle from this?
 
thanks for the quick response but I am not quite following you guys. Still new to this.
Here is my work, maybe you can show me what i am doing wrong that way. Once i get the right distance i'll have no problem finding the angle. I under stand how to do that part.

Ax = A cos(30) = 175km (.866) = 151.55km
Ay = A sin(30) = 175 (.5) = 87.5km
Bx = B sin(20) =150km (.342) = -51.3km
By = B cos(20) = 150 (.939) = 140.96km
Cx = C cos(110) = -190km (-.342) = 64.98km
Cy = C sin(110) = 190 (.939) = 178.54km

√165.232 + 4072 = √192951.4 ≈ 439km
 
Hey kelvin ,
As the diagram and the question says , the vector C is parallel to X axis , which mean there is no change in the y component of total displacement .
On the side note , What does the figure mean by 110 degrees ? what is it .
 
Try solving
Cx as 190
and Cy as 0
 
Cx = C cos(110) = -190km (-.342) = 64.98km
Cy = C sin(110) = 190 (.939) = 178.54km

You have the components correct for vectors \vec{a} and \vec{b},however the angles are wrong for the components of \vec{c}

What angle does \vec{c} make with the positive x direction?
There is no vertical component to \vec{c}
 
kushan said:
Try solving
Cx as 190
and Cy as 0
thank you so much. i understand that now. it will help me on a previos one i thought i had right too.

CAF123 said:
You have the components correct for vectors \vec{a} and \vec{b},however the angles are wrong for the components of \vec{c}

What angle does \vec{c} make with the positive x direction?
There is no vertical component to \vec{c}

vector c is at 0 or 180 degrees isn't it?
 
180 you can call it .
 
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Vector \vec{c} is at angle of 180o with respect to the positive x axis. Therefore the vector eqn for \vec{c} is,
\vec{c} = (190cos180)\hat x = -190\hat x
 
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oh okay! that's where that 110 came from. i was trying to figure out the angle so i decided to try the interior angle of ΔABC

i had a very similar problem there i found the interior angle like that and coincidently the resultant was extremely close either way. I have now corrected both and i can't thank you two enough.
 
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