Adding waves of the same frequency but different phases

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The discussion revolves around the addition of two waves with the same frequency but different phases, specifically represented by the equations E1 = 7*sin(omega*t + 70 degrees) and E2 = 13*sin(omega*t + 65 degrees). Participants are exploring how to combine these waves mathematically.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether it is valid to subtract the phase angles directly to simplify the wave equations. There is a discussion about adjusting the phase through time shifts and the implications of doing so.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting methods for adjusting the phase and checking results. Multiple interpretations of how to handle the phase differences are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be some uncertainty regarding the definitions and methods for adding waves with differing phases, as well as the implications of shifting time to adjust for phase differences.

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Homework Statement


how do you add two waves with the same frequency but different phases?
E1 = 7*sin(omega*t + 70degrees)
E2 = 13*sin*(omega*t + 65degrees)[/B]

Homework Equations


Er = E1 + E2[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to add waves that only have one phase, i.e.
E1 = E01*sin(omega*t)
E2 = E02*sin(omega*t + phase difference)

Can I subtract 65-70 degrees to make it
E1= E01*sin(omega*t)
E2 = E02*sin(omega*t - 5degrees)
?[/B]
 
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lcr2139 said:

Homework Statement


how do you add two waves with the same frequency but different phases?
E1 = 7*sin(omega*t + 70degrees)
E2 = 13*sin*(omega*t + 65degrees)[/B]

Homework Equations


Er = E1 + E2[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to add waves that only have one phase, i.e.
E1 = E01*sin(omega*t)
E2 = E02*sin(omega*t + phase difference)

Can I subtract 65-70 degrees to make it
E1= E01*sin(omega*t)
E2 = E02*sin(omega*t - 5degrees)
?[/B]
Kind of...it depends on what sort of result you are looking for.
Normally to adjust the phase, you would need a shift in t.
For example, ## \sin (\omega t + \phi) = \sin (\omega (t+\phi/\omega) )##
So, if you replace t with ##\tau##, and define ##\tau = t+ \phi / \omega ##, then you can have a similar set up to what you are used to dealing with and then substitute the definition for tau back into your solution to get what you are looking for.
 
lcr2139 said:
Can I subtract 65-70 degrees to make it
E1= E01*sin(omega*t)
E2 = E02*sin(omega*t - 5degrees)
?
Try it, then shift your answer back 70o, and check your answer.
 
How do you add waves "that only have one phase"?
 

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