Aerodynamic Lift/Kutta-Zhukovsky theorem

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The discussion revolves around the Kutta-Zhukovsky theorem and its application to aerodynamic lift and drag, specifically focusing on the formulas related to lift (L), drag (D), and the lift coefficient (C_L). Participants seek clarification on the validity of these formulas, their application to different shapes, and the underlying concepts in fluid dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests an intuitive explanation of the lift and drag formulas and questions their applicability to circular, rotating cylinders.
  • Another participant provides a description of the lift and drag formulas, explaining their dependence on fluid density, velocity, and characteristic area, and mentions the use of non-dimensional coefficients for testing scale models.
  • Questions arise regarding the definition of "characteristic area" for different shapes, such as aerofoils and spheres.
  • Clarifications are provided about the meaning of "characteristic area" for bluff bodies and lifting surfaces, as well as the definition of 'U' as the undisturbed fluid velocity.

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Participants generally agree on the standard nature of the lift and drag formulas and the concept of characteristic area, but there are still questions and uncertainties regarding specific applications and definitions.

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Some assumptions about the applicability of the Kutta-Zhukovsky theorem and the conditions under which drag is considered may not be fully addressed. The discussion does not resolve the confusion regarding drag in inviscid theory.

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Hello! My fluid dynamics book doesn't bother explaining this properly, so can somebody please give a short, intuitive (if possible...) explanation to the following 3 formulas concerning lift and drag? And are they only valid for circular, rotating cylinders (magnus effect)?

L = C_L \cdot \frac{1}{2} \rho U^2 \cdot A
D = C_D \cdot \frac{1}{2} \rho U^2 \cdot A
C_L = \pi a \omega / U_{\infty}

I believe my book used Kutta-Zhukovsky's theorem,
L = \Gamma \cdot \rho U_{\infty}
to get the first. The second one I am very confused about, because according to inviscid theory drag is non-existant.
 
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The first two formulas for L and D are standard. The express the values of the actual lift and drag force in terms of the density of the fluid, the velocity of the fluid, and a characteristic area, usually the projected area of the body normal to the fluid flow. When testing various bodies to determine their lift and drag, the actual force values are non-dimensionalized to calculate the lift and drag coefficients, CL and CD, respectively. This is a useful concept, because it allows one to test scale models instead of full size objects. By scaling the fluid velocity using the Reynolds No., one can use the CL and CD values to predict the lift and drag force on a full size aircraft, for instance, using data obtained from a wind tunnel test on a small scale model aircraft.
 
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Thanks for the reply.

2 questions:

1) What exactly do you mean by "characteristic area"? What's the characteristic area of an aerofoil and, say, a sphere?
2) "U" is the velocity of the fluid parallel to the surface of the object, right?
 
Nikitin said:
Thanks for the reply.

2 questions:

1) What exactly do you mean by "characteristic area"? What's the characteristic area of an aerofoil and, say, a sphere?
2) "U" is the velocity of the fluid parallel to the surface of the object, right?


1. For bluff bodies, like spheres or bodies of revolution, it usually means the projected area normal to the flow. For lifting surfaces, like plates or wings, the area is usually the planform area, or the area as viewed looking down on the plate or wing.

2. 'U' is the undisturbed fluid velocity.
 
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OK thanks
 

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