B Age of the Universe vs Age of the Stars

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The discussion centers on the idea that the universe may exist within an already existing universe, sparked by a news article claiming varying ages of cosmic objects. Participants express skepticism about the validity of such claims, emphasizing that news articles often lack scientific rigor and references to credible research. The expansion of the universe is clarified as not involving motion through space, countering the notion of an "outer universe." The age discrepancies of certain stars, like the Methuselah star, are acknowledged as ongoing puzzles for cosmologists. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for accurate measurements and scientific consensus before entertaining speculative theories.
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Universe within universe
Recently a news article stated objects found in the universe have different ages, could it be that our universe is inside an already existing universe and that is why it is able to expand so easily.
 
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Benfield said:
Summary: Universe within universe

Recently a news article stated objects found in the universe have different ages, could it be that our universe is inside an already existing universe and that is why it is able to expand so easily.
It's difficult to make any sense of that. In general news items don't qualify as science.
 
He is probably speculating about a bubble universe. We have no way of testing this theory as far as I know and this forum is only about accepted knowledge.
 
I have a different age than you - but that doesn't imply anything about cosmology.

We know the expansion is not a motion of objects through space because that wouldn't fit to observations. No, we are not expanding inside an "outer universe", there is no such thing.
 
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There was a recent article about the age of the Methusalah star that appears to be older than the universe causing some consternation among cosmologists.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...-appear-older-than-the-universe/#63bc38323c44
Before we can even begin speculate about your question we need to have really good numbers for the age of things in the universe and that is the ongoing work of astronomers and cosmologists today.

https://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-resources/age-of-the-universe/
 
PeroK said:
It's difficult to make any sense of that. In general news items don't qualify as science.
Thank you I shall delete my membership always a pleasure.
 
mfb said:
I have a different age than you - but that doesn't imply anything about cosmology.

We know the expansion is not a motion of objects through space because that wouldn't fit to observations. No, we are not expanding inside an "outer universe", there is no such thing.
Thanks awfully account is being deleted to make room for the iluminati
 
PeroK said:
In general news items don't qualify as science.

Particularly when there's not a single reference to an actual scientific paper in the entire article.
 
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Benfield said:
Thank you I shall delete my membership always a pleasure.
Benfield said:
Thanks awfully account is being deleted to make room for the iluminati
We don't appreciate trolls here at the PF. Bye.
 
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