Air does not intervene with radiation

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The phrase "air does not intervene with radiation" means that air does not obstruct or affect the radiation emitted from a person to surrounding surfaces. This implies that thermal radiation is transferred directly from the person to walls, ceiling, and floor without interference from the air. The discussion clarifies that in typical indoor settings, especially in smaller rooms, the impact of air on radiation is minimal. The term "intervene" is defined as "to get in the way of or intercept," emphasizing that air does not alter the radiation process. Overall, the conversation focuses on the significance of understanding thermal radiation in enclosed spaces.
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I cannot understand the expression "air does not intervene with radiation". Would you please explain what it means in detail?

" Considering that air does not intervene with radiation and the person is completely enclosed by the surrounding surfaces, the net rate of radiation heat transfer from the person to the surrounding walls, ceiling, and the floor is, from Eq"

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That means that they are ignoring any termal radiation absorbed or emitted by the air in the room. If you are indoors and not in a very large room the error from this shouldn't be too large.
 
willem2 said:
That means that they are ignoring any termal radiation absorbed or emitted by the air in the room. If you are indoors and not in a very large room the error from this shouldn't be too large.

I have looked some meanings of intervene. But I cannot find a definition for it for this case

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/intervene

What could be a definition for intervene with used as in the example?

Thank you.
 
Intervene means 'get in the way of or intercept':

rewritten: Considering that air does not interfere with radiation and does not affect radiation coming from the human in reaching the walls, and the person is completely enclosed by the surrounding surfaces, the net rate of radiation heat transfer from the person to the surrounding walls, ceiling, and the floor is, from Eq
 
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jim mcnamara said:
Intervene means 'get in the way of or intercept':

rewritten: Considering that air does not interfere with radiation and does not affect radiation coming from the human in reaching the walls, and the person is completely enclosed by the surrounding surfaces, the net rate of radiation heat transfer from the person to the surrounding walls, ceiling, and the floor is, from Eq
I am confused. Did you mean intervene instead of interfere? We are discussing intervene.

Thank you.
 
jim mcnamara said:
rewritten: Considering that air does not interfere with radiation
mech-eng said:
I am confused. Did you mean intervene instead of interfere? We are discussing intervene.
I am certain that he meant what he wrote. The rewritten version uses a different word that is close to being a synonym of intervene. When you redefine something, you use different words. If you define a word using the same word, that's a circular definition.
 
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