Amplitude and frequency dependence on energy of a wave.

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The energy of a wave is proportional to the square of its amplitude and its frequency, as described by the Planck relation. While the energy of a photon is directly related to its frequency, an electromagnetic (EM) wave consists of multiple photons, which means that different colors of light can have the same energy despite differing photon counts. This leads to confusion about the relationship between frequency and amplitude, as they are not directly proportional. The discussion also touches on the nature of photons, questioning whether they can be considered wave packets. Overall, the conversation clarifies the distinctions between wave energy, frequency, and the composition of EM waves.
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Hello all,

I have learned that the energy of a wave is proportional to the square of its amplitude. I have also learned (by the Planck relation) that the energy of a wave is proportional to the frequency of the wave. Doesn't this imply that the frequency of a wave is proportional to the square of its amplitude? I know this deduction is wrong; what am I messing up here??

Thanks for your help and time,
F2
 
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The energy of a photon is proportional to its frequency. Eγ=hv where h is Planck's constant and v is the frequency.

The energy of an EM wave is indeed proportional to the square of its amplitude. But this wave is made of many individual photons. An EM wave coming from a blue light can have the same energy as an EM wave coming from a red light, but the red light will consist of more photons to make up for a smaller energy per photon.
 
So is a photon a wave packet, and an EM wave a composition of wave packets (photons)?
 
Hi Famwood2

So is a photon a wave packet, and an EM wave a composition of wave packets (photons)?

that's my understanding, Yes tho through reading I understand that a photon doesn't have to be restricted to a wave packet

here's a couple of articles you may find interesting :smile:

Photon wave functions, wave-packet quantization of light, and coherence theory
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0708/0708.0831.pdf


Focus: Shaping Single Photons
Published September 5, 2008 | Phys. Rev. Focus 22, 8 (2008) | DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevFocus.22.8

cheers
Dave
 
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