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The discussion revolves around an integral result derived from Parseval's Theorem, exploring various methods for evaluating the integral, including residue theory and transformations. Participants share insights, alternative approaches, and seek clarification on the theorem's application.

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  • One participant notes that the integral result is similar to outcomes from residue theory when evaluated at a specific pole.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for alternative methods to evaluate the integral, indicating confidence in their own computation.
  • A different participant claims to have successfully evaluated the integral using residue theory, detailing the steps and transformations involved.
  • There is a clarification regarding the statement of Parseval's theorem, emphasizing the distinction between real-valued and complex-valued functions in its application.

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Participants express differing methods for evaluating the integral, with some supporting the use of residue theory while others remain focused on Parseval's method. No consensus is reached on a single approach.

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Participants discuss the implications of using different mathematical techniques and the conditions under which Parseval's theorem applies, highlighting potential limitations in the assumptions made regarding the nature of the functions involved.

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An Integral Result from Parseval's Theorem
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Additional comments: The result for this integral is similar to the type of result that would be obtained from residue theory if the integrand gets evaluated at the "pole" at ## x=x_o ##. Alternatively, with the transformations ## y=x-x_o ## and ## y=\pi u ##, in the limit ## T \rightarrow +\infty ##, ## \frac{\sin(\pi u T)}{\pi u }=\delta(u) ##, but this only gives a result for large ## T ## for an evaluation of the integral. So far, the Parseval method is the only way I have of solving it.
 
Thanks Charles! Some day I will understand this :)
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Thanks Charles! Some day I will understand this :)
Hi @Greg Bernhardt
I will be very pleased if someone comes up with an alternative method to evaluate this integral. I am pretty sure I computed it correctly, but I would really enjoy seeing an alternative solution. :) :)
 
I believe I have now also succeeded at evaluating this integral by use of the residue theorem: ## \\ ## The integral can be rewritten as ## I=-\frac{1}{2} \int Re[ \frac{e^{i2z}[1-e^{-i2(z-x_o)}]}{(z-x_o)(z+x_o)}] \, dz ##. ## \\ ## (Using ## sin(x-x_o)sin(x+x_o)=-\frac{1}{2}[cos(2x)-cos(2x_o)] ## and then writing ## cos(2x) ## as the real part of ## e^{i2x} ##). ## \\ ## A Taylor expansion shows the only pole is at ## z=-x_o ## (from the ## (z+x_o) ## term in the denominator. ## \\ ## (Note that ## e^{-i2(z-x_o)}=1-2i(z-x_o)+higher \, order \, terms \, in \, (z-x_o) ##. Thereby, there is no pole at ## z=x_o ##). ## \\ ## The contour will go along the x-axis with an infinitesimal semi-circle loop over the pole at ## z=-x_o ##, and will be closed in the upper half complex plane. (I needed to consult my complex variables book for this next part:). The infinitesimal semi-circle loop over the pole in the clockwise direction results in ## -B_o \pi i ## where ## B_o ## is the residue of the function at ## z=-x_o ##. ## \\ ## Upon evaluating the residue ## B_o ##, this results in ## -\pi \frac{sin(2x_o)}{2x_o} ## for the portion containing the infinitesimal semi-circle loop over the pole (which is not part of the integration of the function along the x-axis, where the entire function is considered to be well-behaved.). Since the contour doesn't enclose any poles, the complete integral around it must be zero, so the functional part along the x-axis must be equal to ## \pi \frac{sin(2x_o)}{2x_o} ##, which is the result that we anticipated.
 
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Just a small addition regarding the statement of Parseval's theorem:
If ##V(t)## is real-valued (and in this article it is )then it is correct as it is stated
if ##V(t)## is complex-valued then in the statement of theorem it has to be put inside norm, that is ##\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}|V(t)|^2dt=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}|\tilde{V}(\omega)|^2d\omega##
 
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