Analyzing Acceleration in a Particle's Spiral Motion

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a particle's motion along a spiral trajectory defined by r=Aθ, with A being a constant. Participants seek to determine when the radial acceleration is zero, specifically at θ=1/√2 rad, and to find the angles where radial and tangential accelerations are equal in magnitude. The equations for radial and tangential acceleration are clarified, with emphasis on substituting the correct values for r and θ. Participants express confusion over the constants involved, particularly α and A, but ultimately work through the equations to reach a solution. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the relationships between angular, radial, and tangential accelerations in this context.
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Homework Statement


A particle moves outward along a spiral. Its trajectory is given by r=Aθ, where A is a constant. A=1/π m/rad. θ increases in time according to θ=αt^2/2, where α is a constant.
Show that the radial acceleration is zero when θ=1/√2 rad. At what angles do the radial and tangential accelerations have equal magnitude?

Homework Equations



\frac{d\mathbf{r}}{dt} = \dot r\hat{\mathbf{r}} + r\dot\theta\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}
\frac{d^2\mathbf{r}}{dt^2} = (\ddot r - r\dot\theta^2)\hat{\mathbf{r}} + (r\ddot\theta + 2\dot r \dot\theta)\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried plugging things into the second equation. However, I don't know what t and α are, which is why I am stuck. I also tried substitution, but that didn't really get me anywhere either.
 
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What are the values of a and A?
 
learningphysics said:
What are the values of a and A?

a is supposed to be alpha, an unknown constant. A is equal to 1/(pi) m/rad.
 
The angular acceleration is: \frac{d^2R}{dt^2} - R(\frac{d\theta}{dt})^2. substitute your values for R and \theta into this equation and simplify as much as you can.

Finally substitute in the value for theta 1/sqrt(2).
 
learningphysics said:
The angular acceleration is: \frac{d^2R}{dt^2} - R(\frac{d\theta}{dt})^2. substitute your values for R and \theta into this equation and simplify as much as you can.

Finally substitute in the value for theta 1/sqrt(2).

Is angular acceleration the same as radial acceleration? Also, what is the equation for tangential acceleration? I just changed my original comment. The relevant equations are

\frac{d\mathbf{r}}{dt} = \dot r\hat{\mathbf{r}} + r\dot\theta\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}
\frac{d^2\mathbf{r}}{dt^2} = (\ddot r - r\dot\theta^2)\hat{\mathbf{r}} + (r\ddot\theta + 2\dot r \dot\theta)\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}
 
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amstrf89 said:
Is angular acceleration the same as radial acceleration? Also, what is the equation for tangential acceleration?

Oops, I meant to write radial acceleration... yeah, that formula I posted is radial acceleration.

tangential acceleration is: 2*dr/dt*w+r*d(w)/dt, where w = dtheta/dt... I looked this up here: http://aemes.mae.ufl.edu/~uhk/DYNAMICS.html because I couldn't remember it.
 
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What is this part of the equation: \((r\ddot\theta + 2\dot r \dot\theta)\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}?
 
amstrf89 said:
What is this part of the equation: \((r\ddot\theta + 2\dot r \dot\theta)\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}?

That's tangential acceleration.

This is radial acceleration:
(\ddot r - r\dot\theta^2)\hat{\mathbf{r}}
 
Thanks for the help. I think I figured it out.
 
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amstrf89 said:
Thanks for the help. I think I figured it out.

Cool. no prob.
 
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