Analyzing Projectile Motion with Varying Angle and Acceleration in 2D

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around analyzing projectile motion in two dimensions, specifically focusing on the effects of varying angles and acceleration. Participants explore the mathematical modeling of motion under the influence of gravity, addressing homework problems related to position, velocity, and acceleration over time.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a position function for a moving point in 2D, incorporating gravitational effects on the Y-axis.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the "equations of linear motion" mentioned, seeking specific formulas relevant to the problem.
  • A participant lists common kinematic equations, initially questioning their applicability to the problem.
  • Concerns are raised about the relevance of differentiation in the context of position and velocity, with a participant noting the potential complexity introduced by their lecturer.
  • There is uncertainty about whether to apply differentiation or kinematic equations, with a suggestion to explore both methods.
  • Participants discuss the need to analyze the X and Y components of motion separately, prompting a breakdown of initial velocities and accelerations in both directions.
  • One participant attempts to derive initial velocities and accelerations from the given position functions but expresses confusion regarding the role of trigonometric functions.
  • Another participant encourages writing the expressions for X(t) and Y(t) in a standard form to identify parameters more clearly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, with differing opinions on the relevance of differentiation versus kinematic equations. Uncertainty remains regarding the application of trigonometric functions in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about the application of certain formulas and the role of differentiation in the context of projectile motion. There is also ambiguity regarding the interpretation of trigonometric functions in the position equations.

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Homework Statement


A moving point has a position function (P) and is given by 2D quantities where the (Y) axis is affected by gravity (9.8m/s/s) and (t) is in seconds.

X(t)=4t cos θ and Y(t)= 4t sin (θ)-5t^2



If θ = Pi /3 find the speed in directions after 10 seconds

Find the angle where maximum X direction = maximum Y direction

Find the time for maximum x direction = maximum Y direction

Find the acceleration after 2 seconds

Does the acceleration vary against time?




Relevant equations/notes

Equations of linear motion.

9.8m/s/s can be rounded to 10m/s/s for simplicity.
 
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Hi Jeff, welcome to PF!
We have put the template that you haven't used in your post for a reason :) Maybe you can tell us what the "equations of linear motion" you mention are. I'm sure you already have some idea which one(s) to use?
 
After a bit of research I'm under the impression I need to use the formulae

V= u + at

S = ut + 1/2 at^2

V^2 = u^2 + 2as

Also my error in that the position function should be (s) instead of (p)
 
Those formulas only hold for motion with constant acceleration a.
In your topic title you said "Differentiation with physics".
What does differentiation have to do with position and velocity?
 
Our lecturer has just tried to make it relevant/more difficult due to the fact that we are doing an engineering course.
 
Actually I just realized that the formulas you gave are applicable in this case, so I'm a bit confused now whether your lecturer wants you to use differentiation or not.
I'm tempted to advise you to try both ways, but let's go for the first one first, since you have found those formulas.

What you should remember for 2D problems is that you need to consider the X and Y directions separately. So looking at
S = ut + 1/2 at^2
what are the initial velocity ux and acceleration ax in the X-direction? How about the Y-direction (uy, ay)?
Then what can you say about the formulas vx, vy for the velocity ?
 
I have no idea where to start with this one, let me try and find some notes on this...
 
Look at the t's in the formula. The general expression for S(t) you gave is (something) * t + (something) * t².
Can you write the expression for X(t) and Y(t) in the same way? Then you can compare the "somethings" and you should be able to read off what u and (1/2)a are.
 
For the y I get
S(t) = ut + 1/2 a t^2
Y(t) = 4t sin θ -5t^2 therefore I think that u =4 and a=-10 but I'm not sure where the sin theta comes from

And for the x I get
S(t) = ut + 1/2 a t^2
X(t) = 4t cosθ Therefore I think that u =4 again but I have nothing for a?! And I'm unsure where cos is relevant?
 

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