Angle b/w Velocity $\&$ Acceleration Vectors at $t=0$

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The discussion revolves around finding the angle between the velocity and acceleration vectors of a particle at time \( t=0 \). Participants explore the mathematical expressions for the position, velocity, and acceleration vectors, and consider the implications of evaluating these at \( t=0 \). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanation.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the position vector \( r(t) \) and the corresponding expressions for velocity \( v_{13}(t) \) and acceleration \( a_{13}(t) \).
  • Another participant suggests evaluating the vectors at \( t=0 \) before proceeding with the dot product to find the angle.
  • A later reply provides the calculated values of the velocity and acceleration vectors at \( t=0 \), indicating \( v_{13}(0) = 4\textbf{i} + 0\textbf{j} + 0\textbf{k} \) and \( a_{13}(0) = 0\textbf{i} + 14\textbf{j} + 8\textbf{k} \).
  • Using these values, the angle \( \theta \) is computed as \( \frac{\pi}{2} \) based on the dot product formula.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding links to other forums and competition among sites.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to evaluate the vectors at \( t=0 \) and the resulting angle, but there is some confusion about external links and competition among forums.

Contextual Notes

There are no explicit limitations or unresolved mathematical steps mentioned, but the discussion reflects varying familiarity with external resources and potential distractions from the main topic.

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Readers interested in vector calculus, particularly in the context of physics and motion analysis, may find this discussion relevant.

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$\tiny{243.13.0113}$

$\textsf{The vector $r(t)$ is the position vector of a particle at time $t$.}]$
$\textsf{Find the angle between the velocity and the acceleration vectors at time $t=0$}\\$
\begin{align*} \displaystyle
r_{13}(t)&=sin^{-1}(4t)\large\textbf{i}+\ln(7t^2+1)\large\textbf{j}+\sqrt{8t^2+1}\large\textbf{k}\\
v_{13}(t)&=\frac{4}{\sqrt{1 - 16 t^2}}\large\textbf{i}
+ \frac{14 t}{(7t^2+1)}\large\textbf{j}
+ \frac{8 t}{\sqrt{8 t^2 + 1}}\large\textbf{k}\\
a_{13}(t)&=a_{13}(t)=\frac{64t}{(1- 16t^2)^{3/2}}\large\textbf{i}
+\frac{14-98t^2}{(7t^2+1)^2}\large\textbf{j}
+\frac{8}{(8t^2+1)^{3/2}}\large\textbf{k}\\
\textit{book answer}&=\color{red}{\frac{\pi}{2}}
\end{align*}

ok this looks kinda hefty
can we plug in the $t=0$
before the leap of faith into dot product or no?(drink)
 
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tkhunny said:
Sometimes, a quick search will help you along your way...
https://www.freemathhelp.com/forum/...gle-Between-Velocity-and-Acceleration-Vectors
I think you have the right idea. Go without fear!

What... linked to the competition?:confused:

if $t=0$ then

\begin{align*} \displaystyle
v_{13}(0)&=4\large\textbf{i} +0\large\textbf{j} +0\large\textbf{k}\\
a_{13}(0)&=0\large\textbf{i} +14\large\textbf{j} +8\large\textbf{k}\\
\end{align*}

and then

\begin{align*}
\theta&=\cos^{-1}
\left[\frac{u\cdot v}{|u||v|} \right]
=\cos^{-1}
\left[\frac{(4,0,0)\cdot (0,14,8)}{|u||v|} \right]
=\cos^{-1}(0)=\frac{\pi}{2}
\end{align*}

suggestions?
 
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karush said:
What... linked to the competition?:confused:

Oops. My bad. I was on both sites, today, and forgot which one was current.
 
tkhunny said:
Oops. My bad. I was on both sites, today, and forgot which one was current.

Heh. As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind a bit of competition - as long as we end up above sites that are merely spamming! ;)
I'm not familiar with the mentioned site, but I definitely know that some other sites are full of spam and adds, which is something we do not allow or support.
 

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