Angle of Elevation Related Rates help

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The problem involves related rates in calculus, specifically concerning an airplane's altitude and the angle of elevation observed from the ground. The scenario describes an airplane flying at 10,000 feet with an observer noting the angle of elevation increasing at a certain rate.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the angle of elevation and the position of the airplane, questioning the correct application of trigonometric identities and derivatives. There is mention of converting degrees to radians and the implications of the hint provided in the problem.

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Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the tangent function and its derivatives, while others are attempting to clarify the necessary conversions and the role of angular speed. There is an acknowledgment of various approaches to derive the rate of change of distance with respect to time, but no consensus on the correct method has been reached.

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Participants note confusion regarding the hint provided in the problem and the necessity of converting angles to radians. There is also mention of differing formulas and the potential for errors in the setup of the tangent relationship.

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I need help with this problem in my calculus book.
An airplane at an altitude of 10,000 feet is flying at a constant speed on a line which will take it directly over an observer on the ground. If, at a given instant, the observer notes that the angle of elevation of the airplane is 60 degrees and is increasing at a rate of one degree a second, find the speed of the airplane. (Hint: tangent of theta is equal to sine of theta over cosine of theta)

I've worked it and had tangent of theta equals "x" over 10,000. And took the derivative of each side to get secant squared of theta equals one over 10,000 times dx/dt. I solve for dx/dt with my information and get 40,000 feet per second. However the boom says 10,000*pi over 135.

I don't get where the pi comes from.

Sorry for no LaTeX, I'm on my phone.
 
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The full derivative of the angle term must also include the derivative of the angle, i.e., the angular speed. Whose value is given in degrees per second, but it must be converted to the radian measure.
 
Thank you. The reason I didn't include it was because it was 1 degree a second, but what you're saying is I should convert all angles to radian? I'll try that...
 
I still can't seem to get it. Can someone tell me how the book got that answer? I don't know why it would give me the hint it did if I don't really need it.
 
What is the formula you got?
 
If you want to know what hint they gave: The tangent of theta being equal to the sine of theta over the cosine of theta.

If you want to know the answer I got: (40,000*pi)/180
I know it isn't right , so I didn't feel the need to simplify. The formula I get for the rate x changes with respect to time is:
dx/dt = pi/180 * sec^2 (pi/3)*10,000
 
B3NR4Y said:
If you want to know what hint they gave: The tangent of theta being equal to the sine of theta over the cosine of theta.

If you want to know the answer I got: (40,000*pi)/180
I know it isn't right , so I didn't feel the need to simplify. The formula I get for the rate x changes with respect to time is:
dx/dt = pi/180 * sec^2 (pi/3)*10,000

\begin{equation}
\frac{dx}{dt} = \frac{\pi sec^{2}(\frac{\pi}{3}) 10,000}{180}
\end{equation}

\begin{equation}
tan \theta =\frac{x}{10000}
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
\frac{d}{dt} (tan \theta) = \frac{d}{dt} (\frac{x}{10000})
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
sec^{2} \theta \frac{d\theta}{dt} = \frac{1}{10000} \frac{dx}{dt}
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
10,000 (sec^{2} (\frac{\pi}{3}) \frac{\pi}{180}) = \frac{dx}{dt}
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
10,000 (\frac{4\pi}{180})
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
\frac{40,000\pi}{180}
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
\frac{2,000\pi}{9}
\end{equation}

Where have I steered wrong
 
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Oh, and the hint they gave was

\begin{equation}
tan\theta = \frac{sin\theta}{cos\theta}
\end{equation}
 
## \tan \theta = \frac x {10000} ## is wrong. The correct formula is ## \tan \theta = \frac {10000} x ##.
 
  • #10
So
\begin{equation}
sec^{2} \theta \frac{d\theta}{dt} = -\frac{10,000}{x^{2}} \frac{dx}{dt}
\end{equation}
 
  • #11
Yes. Eliminate x from the expression and then find v. Alternatively, you could use cot x = x/10000.
 
  • #12
Thanks :D I got the correct answer. You are a calculus god, have the ceremonial loin cloth.
 

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