Angular momentum in Uniform circular flow

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of angular momentum in different types of fluid flow, specifically uniform rotational flow and vortex flow. Participants explore the implications of velocity profiles on angular momentum conservation and seek clarification on definitions and terminology related to these flow types.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether angular momentum is conserved in uniform rotational flow, suggesting that the same logic applied to vortex flow might also apply here.
  • Another participant highlights the ambiguity in the term "uniform circular flow," noting that "uniform flow" implies constant velocity, while "circular" indicates a change in direction, leading to confusion about the conservation of angular momentum.
  • A third participant distinguishes between two types of flow: rigid rotation, characterized by a constant angular velocity, and potential vortex flow, which has a velocity profile inversely proportional to the distance from the center.
  • One participant suggests examining whether momentum is constant across all points in the discussed flow fields, but expresses uncertainty regarding the conservation of total momentum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the conservation of angular momentum in uniform rotational flow, and there are competing interpretations of the definitions and implications of the flow types discussed.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of "uniform flow" and "circular flow," as well as the assumptions about mass distribution and the specific conditions under which momentum conservation is evaluated.

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My book says that for uniform rotational flow, the velocity at any point is proportional to r (v = wr.) In vortex flow, the velocity at any point is proportional to 1/r (angular momentum is conserved.) However, in uniform rotational flow, isn't angular momentum also conserved so the same logic applies here? If not, what is changing the angular momentum? I know that physically, uniform rotational flow follows v = wr, but I am confused about angular momentum here.
 
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It's difficult to parse the phrase "uniform circular flow" because "uniform flow" (I think) means that the velocity is the same at every point in the flow. The velocity is a vector and "circular" suggests a change in direction of velocity as we move to different points in the flow. Is your book talking about total angle momentum being conserved or is it talking about momentum being constant at all points in the flow?
 
I guess, it's a good idea to point out the whole problem described in the book. So I don't know, what's really meant.

Obviously there are two different kinds of flow discussed, namely

(a) rigid rotation

The velocity field then is
##\vec{v}(\vec{r})=\vec{\omega} \times \vec{r}##
with ##\vec{\omega}=\text{const}##.

(b) "potential vortex"
##\vec{v}(\vec{r})=\frac{C}{2 \pi \rho^2} \begin{pmatrix}-y \\ x \\ 0 \end{pmatrix},##
where ##\rho=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}##.
 
One can examine whether momentum is constant over all points in these fields (for a uniform distribution of mass), but I don't see any information about conservation or non-conservation of total momentum.
 

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