Another aggravating kinematics problem - regarding stones

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The problem involves two stones, one dropped and one thrown from a 144-foot cliff, hitting the water simultaneously. The initial velocity of the second stone is calculated to be 40 ft/second, but the user is obtaining 10.908 ft/second due to a misunderstanding of gravitational acceleration. The correct acceleration due to gravity in imperial units is 32 ft/s², not 4.9 ft/s², which is used in metric calculations. The user also forgot to convert units properly, leading to the incorrect result. The key takeaway is the importance of using the correct gravitational constant and unit conversions in kinematics problems.
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A stone is DROPPED off a 144 foot cliff. A second later, another stone is THROWN off that cliff. The two hit the water at the same exact instant. What is the initial velocity of the second stone?


The answer is 40 ft/second according to my book, but for some reason, I never get that.


I set 4.9t^2 = v*(t-1) + 4.9(t-1)^2
I also set 144 = 4.9t^2 to get t = 5.421.

I plug this back into the first equation, and my answer comes out to 10.908 ft/ sec!

What am I doing wrong here?
 
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youve got the gravitational acceleration wrong...im pretty sure its not 4.9f/s^2...if its 9.8m/s^2
 
its approximately 32.2 f/s^2
 
OVB said:
A stone is DROPPED off a 144 foot cliff. A second later, another stone is THROWN off that cliff. The two hit the water at the same exact instant. What is the initial velocity of the second stone?


The answer is 40 ft/second according to my book, but for some reason, I never get that.


I set 4.9t^2 = v*(t-1) + 4.9(t-1)^2
I also set 144 = 4.9t^2 to get t = 5.421.

I plug this back into the first equation, and my answer comes out to 10.908 ft/ sec!

What am I doing wrong here?

Interesting, I get the same answer. From the equation of displacement for the first rock we get t = 5.42 seconds. The time of 'flight' of the second stone must be 4.42 seconds. So, x2(t)=v0*4.42+0.5*9.81*4.42^2=144 implies v0=10.9 ft/second.
 
OHHH darn I forgot to convert the units. Silly me :P
 
OVB said:
OHHH darn I forgot to convert the units. Silly me :P

The one and only unit for length is [m] is a perfect world. :smile:
 
Yes, the acceleration due to gravity is 9.8 m/s2 or 32 ft/s2. QuantumKing, remember that the coefficient of t2 in the distance formula is g/2! 4.9t2 would be correct in the metric system, 16t2 is correct in the imperial system.
 
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