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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of a force acting on a triangular plate about a specific point, referred to as point O. Participants are exploring the geometric relationships and vector components involved in the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the selection of a reference point for the moment calculation and the corresponding r vector. There is uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculation, particularly regarding the angle and the variables involved. Some question whether the distance r must always be the closest distance from point O to the line of action of the force.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the geometric setup and the definition of the distance r. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of similar triangles to find r, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to take.

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There is a mention of a drawing that was intended to be attached but was not successfully uploaded, which may limit the clarity of the problem setup. Participants are working with the assumption that the force acts along the hypotenuse of the triangle.

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1. Homework Statement
I attached the drawing.
The force of magnitude F acts along the edge of the triangular plate. Determine the moment of F about point O.

2. Homework Equations

M=rxF

3. The Attempt at a Solution
What I did was I just picked the top left point of the triangle and labeled that (0,h) which give me my r vector 0i+hj. After that I really don't know how to proceed except to find the angle by doing inverse tangent of h/b, but I just keep getting variable after variable. What other way is there to do this?
 
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pyroknife said:
1. Homework Statement
I attached the drawing.
The force of magnitude F acts along the edge of the triangular plate. Determine the moment of F about point O.

2. Homework Equations

M=rxF

3. The Attempt at a Solution
What I did was I just picked the top left point of the triangle and labeled that (0,h) which give me my r vector 0i+hj. After that I really don't know how to proceed except to find the angle by doing inverse tangent of h/b, but I just keep getting variable after variable. What other way is there to do this?


First thing, you didn't attach a drawing?
 
pyroknife said:
hmm it's not letting me attach the image. I uploaded it on imageshack
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/714/48631281.png/

You had that M = r * F

you need to find r, which is the distance from O to the closest point on the hypotenuse [lets call that point D.

Similar triangle work comparing the original triangle to the triangle ODX where X is either the point you decided to call (0,h) or the other corner of the triangle.
 
i'm a little confused by r. is it always the "closest" distance from the point you're revolving around or can it be any point in the line of action of the force? Like can you pick any point on the hypotenuse in this case, even though it'll be easier to make 1 of the 2 corners?
 

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