Anti-Helmholtz coil configuration

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The discussion centers on the magnetic field configuration produced by two coils arranged in an anti-Helmholtz configuration, specifically focusing on the field along the x-direction. Participants explore the implications of Maxwell's equations in this context and the mathematical representation of the magnetic field.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand the magnetic field along the x-direction, given the known field along the z-direction, and questions if B(x) is simply -B(z).
  • Another participant clarifies that the divergence of the magnetic field (div B = 0) leads to a relationship between the derivatives of the components of the magnetic field, suggesting that symmetry implies equal behavior in the x and y directions.
  • This participant argues that the derived relationships do not yield a specific magnetic field value but rather describe the behavior of the field's derivatives at a point, particularly along the central axis.
  • A third participant introduces the concept of off-axis fields from current loops, mentioning that these can be expressed using elliptic integrals and that the total field from a pair of coils is a sum of the individual fields.
  • References to advanced texts for more extensive derivations and explanations are provided, indicating that the topic may require deeper exploration in specialized literature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the mathematical relationships derived from Maxwell's equations, with no consensus reached on the specific nature of the magnetic field along the x-direction.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in deriving specific magnetic field values from the relationships presented, as well as the dependence on symmetry and the central axis of the coils.

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Hi

Say I have to coils in the anti-Helmholtz configuration as in the attached picture. It is pretty easy to find the field along the z-direction, as this is introduced in introductory EM. However say that I would like to know the field along the x-direction. This I don't know how to find.

What I *do* know is that the Maxwell Equations (div B = 0) tell me that
<br /> \frac{dB}{dx} = \frac{dB}{dy} = -\frac{1}{2}\frac{dB}{dz}<br />
But does this imply that the field along x, B(x), is simply -B(z), the negated B-field along the z-direction?


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div B = 0 is equal to \frac{\partial B_x}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial B_y}{\partial y} = - \frac{\partial B_z}{\partial z}
Using symmetry, x and y must be the same, therefore \frac{\partial B_x}{\partial x}= - \frac{1}{2}\frac{\partial B_z}{\partial z}
This does not give you any magnetic field! It is just the derivative of the field at some specific point - probably along the central axis. Looking at the (x,y)-plane right in the middle of the coils, you have a field going radially inwards/outwards (depending on the orientation).
 
Thanks, that was kind of you.
 
The off-axis field from a current loop is written as an expansion in elliptic integrals (or sometimes other functions, depending on the coordinate system you choose). Here is a site that came up in a Google search for off-axis field from a loop:
http://www.netdenizen.com/emagnettest/offaxis/?offaxisloop
but there are many others. The field from a pair of coils is then a sum of the fields from the individual loops.

More extensive derivations/explanations are found in advanced E&M texts like those by Jackson, Smythe, and Stratton.
 

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