Can any subset from a set of {1,2,...,2n} contain two elements where one divides the other?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem where a subset of a set is chosen and the question is to prove that there exists an element in the subset that divides another element. The proof involves partitioning the set into n sets and using the pigeonhole principle to show that two elements in the same set will have one dividing the other.
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i got this problem which is killin me :tongue:

given a set {1,2,...,2n} choose any (n+1) element subset, show there exists an element which divides another element.
 
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What's the actual question? Are you asked to choose a subset of {1,2,...,2n} containing n+1 elements such that at least one element divides at least one other? I guess it isn't, since an answer to this is pretty obvious isn't it?
 
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The problem is asking, I assume, that is you choose any n+1 element subset then there exists two elements a and b so that a|b.

Proof. Any number from {1,2,...,2n} can be uniquely expressed as [tex]2^pq[/tex] where p is a non-negative integer and q is an (odd) positive integer.
Define the sets:
T_1 = {2^p * 1 }
T_2 = {2^p * 2 }
...
T_n = {2^p * n}
So we partitioned the set into n sets. By the pigeonhole principle two elements end up in the same set T_j, but we purposely defined these sets in such a way so that one divides the other.
 

1. What is a subset?

A subset is a set that contains elements that are also found in another set, known as the superset. A subset can have the same elements as the superset, but it can also have fewer elements.

2. How is a subset represented?

A subset is typically represented using the notation A ⊆ B, where A is the subset and B is the superset. This notation can also be read as "A is a subset of B".

3. How is a subset different from a proper subset?

A proper subset is a subset that contains fewer elements than the superset, while a subset can have the same number of elements as the superset. For example, if set A = {1, 2, 3} and set B = {1, 2, 3, 4}, then A is a subset of B but not a proper subset. However, if set C = {1, 2}, then C is both a subset and a proper subset of B.

4. Can a set be a subset of itself?

Yes, a set can be a subset of itself. This is known as the reflexive property of subsets. For example, if set D = {1, 2, 3}, then D is a subset of itself.

5. How do you determine if a set is a subset of another set?

To determine if a set is a subset of another set, you need to check if all the elements in the first set are also present in the second set. If this is true, then the first set is a subset of the second set. If there are elements in the first set that are not present in the second set, then the first set is not a subset of the second set.

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