Anything that does not depend for energy

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The discussion centers on the concept of self-reliance in energy, questioning if anything can operate independently without external energy sources. It is noted that nothing can be entirely self-sufficient, as even natural phenomena like the sun depend on processes that consume energy. The idea of perpetual motion is mentioned, highlighting the impossibility of creating energy from nothing. Additionally, there is a reference to charged particles in atomic orbitals, which may require no energy to maintain their state, but the magnetic fields that sustain them do require energy. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the complexities and limitations of energy self-reliance.
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What is the word for something if it is self-reliant for energy needs to work?
 
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Interesting question, but strictly speaking there is nothing that can be totally self reliant in energy needs cause that would essentially mean the creation of energy from nothing. Even the sun relies on "burning" hydrogen to produce the vast amount of energy it does, when the hydrogen in the sun will be depleted it ll stop producing energy.
 
Context matters, but it sounds a bit like you are referring to perpetual motion.
 
an electron in a stationary state in an atomic orbital requires zero energy and depending on what model you choose you could say it is moving in an "orbit", I use the term loosely.

not sure but I think it requires no energy for a charged particle to maintain a circular orbit in the classical sense in a magnetic field altho the magnetic field takes energy to create and sustain.

disclaimer: non-pro attempting an answer.
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks

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