Apparently easy but super frustrating question about Boyle's Law

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Boyle's Law applies to the same gas, leading to confusion when comparing different ideal gases. The discussion focuses on how to relate pressures and densities of distinct gases in thermal contact, specifically questioning the intuition behind the relationship p/n being constant for all ideal gases at the same temperature. The example provided involves nitrogen and helium, prompting inquiries about their thermal equilibrium. The participant seeks a clearer explanation of the principles behind these laws and their implications. Understanding the assumptions of kinetic theory and the characteristics of ideal gases is essential for grasping these concepts.
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Okay... everywhere i look, it keeps talking about Boyle's Law applied to THE SAME gas! It's so frustrating and retarded! I get it, p1V1 = p2V2. Yay... I didn't even need to look THAT up!

But my question is, how do you compare 2 different (ideal) gases?? It seems like such an obvious problem to address, but google searching just yields pages and pages of what I said above, rather than addressing this... Grr. Anyway, if I have 2 different containers of gasses, and they're in thermal contact, how do I work with Boyle's Law? (This is for my thermodynamics course.)

My book says that Boyle's Law together with Avagdro's Law implies that p/n is the same for all ideal gases (where n is particle density, N/V). But this is completely NOT obvious to me. How do I prove this? Is it supposed to be intuitive??

Specifically, my example problem asks this... you have nitrogen at 1.26 kg/m^3 at pressure 1 bar and helium at 0.36 kg/m^3 at pressure 2 bar. Molecular weight of nitrogen = 28 and of helium = 4. Are the two gases in thermal equilibrium?

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pV = k

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Well, the solution is already given in the book (since it's a sample problem), but it doesn't explain why p/n is the same for all gases at same temperature -- it just states it as if it's obvious or something -- and I don't see why that necessarily is obvious, so... how do I prove that it is true? And am I the only one to whom this is not intuitive??


Thanks a lot!
 
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darussiaman said:
My book says that Boyle's Law together with Avagdro's Law implies that p/n is the same for all ideal gases (where n is particle density, N/V). But this is completely NOT obvious to me. How do I prove this? Is it supposed to be intuitive??

What is characteristic of ideal gas? Or what are assumptions of kinetic theory of gases?
 
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