Application of integral calculus: Work (spring)

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The discussion revolves around a problem in integral calculus related to calculating the work done in stretching a spring. The original poster presents a scenario involving a force applied to a spring and seeks to determine the work done when stretching the spring to double its natural length.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between force and stretch in springs, with the original poster attempting to derive the spring constant and set up the integral for work. Questions arise regarding the limits of integration and the interpretation of the stretch variable.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, clarifying concepts related to the spring constant and the limits of integration. Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct interpretation of the stretch variable and its implications for the integration limits.

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There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of the spring force formula and the limits of integration, with some participants questioning their understanding of the problem setup.

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hi there! I'm having some troubles regarding this question:

"if a force of 5 pounds produces a stretch of 1/10 of the natural length, L , of the spring, how much work is done in stretching the spring to double its natural length?"

i tried answering this but I'm not sure if my answer is correct.
will the answer be in terms of L? thanks a lot!
 
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makovx said:
will the answer be in terms of L?
Yes.
 
i answered W= 75 L is it correct?
 
makovx said:
i answered W= 75 L is it correct?
No. How did you get that answer?
 
my solution is this:

F(x)=k(x)
F(x)= 5 pounds
x=1/10 of L = L/10

5 = k(L/10)
k= 50/L

then F(x)= 50/L x

my lower limit is L and my upper limit is 2L.

then, i did the usual integration in the equation W= integral of F(x) dx (with the upper limit and the lower limit)
 
makovx said:
my solution is this:

F(x)=k(x)
F(x)= 5 pounds
x=1/10 of L = L/10

5 = k(L/10)
k= 50/L

then F(x)= 50/L x
So far, so good.
my lower limit is L and my upper limit is 2L.

then, i did the usual integration in the equation W= integral of F(x) dx (with the upper limit and the lower limit)
Careful. In F = kx, x is the amount of stretch, not the total length. (Fix the limits of your integration.)
 
yes. x is the amount of stretch. if the length is L, and the amount of stretch is 1/10, wouldn't be x= 1/10 of L?

did i miss something there or is it just my limits of integration that made my answer wrong?
 
makovx said:
yes. x is the amount of stretch. if the length is L, and the amount of stretch is 1/10, wouldn't be x= 1/10 of L?
That part, where you calculated the spring constant, was just fine.
did i miss something there or is it just my limits of integration that made my answer wrong?
It's your limits of integration. When you stretch the spring from L (unstretched) to 2L, how does x vary?
 
I finally got your point. Thanks a lot! ^^,
 

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