Applications of Dot Product: Finding Force Components on an Inclined Plane

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the application of the dot product to find force components acting on a crate being dragged up an inclined plane. The scenario includes a ramp at a specific angle and the forces acting on the crate.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the free body diagram (FBD) of the crate, questioning the representation of forces and their directions. There is an attempt to clarify the relationship between the weight of the crate and the applied force.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking to clarify concepts related to force components and the use of geometric relationships in the context of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the breakdown of forces into components, but no consensus has been reached on the overall approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential confusion surrounding the application of the dot product in this scenario, suggesting that the problem may be more geometric in nature than initially thought. There is also mention of a related example in the textbook, which may provide additional context.

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Homework Statement



15) In Question 14, if the ramp makes an angle of 20 degrees with the level ground. Find the magnitude of the force tending to lift the crate vertically.

Textbook Answer for Question 15: 108.3 N

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14) A crate is being dragged up a ramp by a 125 N force applies at an angle of 40 degrees to the ramp. Find the magnitude of the force in the direction of motion (Answer is 95.8 N).

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Homework Equations



u (dot) v = |u||v|cosx

The Attempt at a Solution



I have half of the diagram because I don't understand the rest of the problem:

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draw a box on the ramp;
in FBD= W points down and your points up in +ve y ...
and box is stationary so Fnet = 0
 
What? I don't understand what you meant by "in FBD= W points down and your points up in +ve y"
 
i meant your force, that is asked, and W is the weight of the box
ops, sorry I missed force ><

and then this leaves you with a simply geometric problem where you find the thetas, and something simple like Fx = F.cos theta and Fy = F.sin theta
(it isn't much of dot product problem, but just dividing the F into x and y components )

This is a very common example and you can find a related example in your book too ^_^
 

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