Applied Functional Analysis by Zeidler

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The discussion centers on a question from Zeidler's "Applied Functional Analysis" regarding the density of a subset S of continuous functions on [a,b] where u(a) > 0. The initial claim that this subset is dense in the space of continuous functions is challenged, as a counterexample using f(x) = -1 leads to a contradiction. Participants suggest that the text may contain a typo, possibly intending to state u(a) ≠ 0 instead. However, this adjustment raises concerns about the convexity of the set. The conversation highlights confusion over the definitions and properties of the sets discussed in the book.
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"Applied Functional Analysis" by Zeidler

In my book, "Applied Functional Analysis" by Zeidler, there's a question in the first chapter which, unless I got my concept of density wrong, I can't seem to see true : Let X=C[a,b] be the space of continuous functions on [a,b] with maximum norm. Then the subset S of all functions (in X) with u(a)>0 is open, convex and dense in X.

Open and convex is trivial, but how is this subset dense in X? If we take f(x)=-1, which is in X and suppose that S is dense in X, then there exists a u in S s.t. max|u(x)-f(x)|<1/2, by def. of density. But 0 < 1 < 1+u(a) = u(a)-(-1) = u(a)-f(a) = |u(a)-f(a)| =< max|u(x)-f(x)|<1/2, which implies 1 < max|u(x)-f(x)| < 1/2, a contradiction.

What I don't understand? Thanks!
 
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_DJ_british_? said:
In my book, "Applied Functional Analysis" by Zeidler, there's a question in the first chapter which, unless I got my concept of density wrong, I can't seem to see true : Let X=C[a,b] be the space of continuous functions on [a,b] with maximum norm. Then the subset S of all functions (in X) with u(a)>0 is open, convex and dense in X.

Open and convex is trivial, but how is this subset dense in X? If we take f(x)=-1, which is in X and suppose that S is dense in X, then there exists a u in S s.t. max|u(x)-f(x)|<1/2, by def. of density. But 0 < 1 < 1+u(a) = u(a)-(-1) = u(a)-f(a) = |u(a)-f(a)| =< max|u(x)-f(x)|<1/2, which implies 1 < max|u(x)-f(x)| < 1/2, a contradiction.

What I don't understand? Thanks!

You understand perfectly well. That set is not dense. Perhaps it is just a typo in the text and they meant to write u(a)\neq 0.
 


Yeah, that's what I thought, but then the set is not convex...funny thing is, the next question is to show that the set with u(a)=1 is also open, convex and dense...which it is not. Oh well.
 
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