Applied Physics vs Physics: What's the Difference?

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The discussion revolves around the differences between applied physics and traditional physics programs, focusing on their curricular structures, career implications, and the nature of the fields. Participants explore the definitions and applications of each program, as well as personal experiences and advice regarding academic paths.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether applied physics is more aligned with experimental physics, while others argue that it can also include theoretical work, citing examples of Nobel Prize winners in applied physics.
  • It is suggested that "applied" often refers to fields with direct applications, contrasting with more theoretical areas like high energy physics.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about their future career path, contemplating whether to pursue physics or applied physics based on potential career outcomes.
  • Another participant shares their experience of starting in engineering and later switching to physics, suggesting that beginning with engineering may provide a safer route for those unsure of their path.
  • Discussion includes the variability in applied physics programs, with some incorporating engineering electives, which may influence the decision for students considering a switch to engineering.
  • Links to specific programs at UBC and SFU are shared, highlighting the existence of engineering physics degrees and the similarities in curricula between applied physics and traditional physics programs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of applied physics versus physics, with no clear consensus on which program is preferable or how they differ fundamentally. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best academic path for students uncertain about their future careers.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed information on specific program curricula and the potential variability in applied physics programs across different institutions. Participants also express personal uncertainties and assumptions about career trajectories that may not apply universally.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering a major in physics or applied physics, individuals interested in the distinctions between theoretical and applied fields, and those exploring career options in engineering or physics may find this discussion relevant.

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what is the difference between these two programs? Does applied lean more on being an experimental physicists?
 
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preceptor1919 said:
what is the difference between these two programs? Does applied lean more on being an experimental physicists?

No, it doesn't. For example, Phil Anderson, John Bardeen, and Bob Laughlin are all in "applied physics" (condensed matter physics). Yet, they are Nobel Prize winning theorists!

In many cases, but not all, the term "applied" simply means that the field of study has an obvious, direct application, rather than simply basic knowledge with no direct, obvious application. Condensed matter physics, atomic/molecular physics, etc. are considered as 'applied', while high energy physics, etc are not considered to be "applied".

Zz.
 
Can you please elaborate sir?Sorry for not getting much of what you said.Anyhow, I was so sure of becoming a physicist because I love it but then after reading here for hours, I learned that the future can be a little blurry, if after one or 2 years of studying, I suddenly realize that I want to become an engineer because it is much better career wise, which do you think should I take up in my first or second year, physics or applied physics?
 
preceptor1919 said:
Can you please elaborate sir?Sorry for not getting much of what you said.

Actually, you need to elaborate. What exactly did you read that you did not understand?

In the meantime, read this:

https://www.physicsforums.com/blog.php?b=3727

Zz.
 
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Applied physics programs can vary, so we need to know what the program entails before giving you any quality advice. Some "applied" physics programs simply mean you take engineering electives instead of physics electives. If that is the case for your applied physics program, then that would be the one to do if you foresee yourself switching to engineering your third year.
 
ZapperZ said:
Actually, you need to elaborate. What exactly did you read that you did not understand?

In the meantime, read this:

https://www.physicsforums.com/blog.php?b=3727

Zz.

For some reason my browser did not have the second paragraph of your first post,it's a good thing i viewed again in my phone.i now get it.

Good info on your blig sir.Esuna,i can't find a link for the curriculun,but I'm planning on applying on UBC or SFU for 2015(our family will arrive in Canada on april and applications are done by then).maybe you know their curriculum.thanks for the info.appreciate it :-)
 
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preceptor1919 said:
Anyhow, I was so sure of becoming a physicist because I love it but then after reading here for hours, I learned that the future can be a little blurry, if after one or 2 years of studying, I suddenly realize that I want to become an engineer because it is much better career wise, which do you think should I take up in my first or second year, physics or applied physics?

I had similar thoughts starting out as an undergrad, so I ended up in engineering just to be safe. I eventually switched to physics in my second year but didn't fall behind at all and ended up with several engineering courses under my belt, some of which have been useful (programming).

I would suggest starting out in engineering if you're unsure. Usually the engineering and physics students take the same basic courses in their first year (calc sequence, calc based physics, chemistry), but often engineers have to take a few extra courses like intro to programming etc. Therefore, I think it's easier to switch from engineering to physics rather than the other way around.

Also, some schools have "engineering physics" programs which would essentially be an applied physics program with you're electives being engineering heavy. This might be something to look into.
 
preceptor1919 said:
For some reason my browser did not have the second paragraph of your first post,it's a good thing i viewed again in my phone.i now get it.

Good info on your blig sir.Esuna,i can't find a link for the curriculun,but I'm planning on applying on UBC or SFU for 2015(our family will arrive in Canada on april and applications are done by then).maybe you know their curriculum.thanks for the info.appreciate it :-)

It looks like both schools have Engineering Physics degrees:
http://you.ubc.ca/ubc_programs/engineering-physics/
http://www.sfu.ca/students/calendar...tion/honours/bachelor-of-applied-science.html

SFU Actually has Applied Physics as well
http://www.sfu.ca/students/calendar...pplied-physics/major/bachelor-of-science.html

Though other than some Nuclear Science classes and a Semiconductor Device Physics class, the actual curriculum doesn't seem too different from any other undergrad physics curriculum. Of course I have no idea what lab/work/project opportunities you may have there that could be valuable.

The engineering physics at SFU looks very comprehensive and looks like it would give you a lot of foundational engineering classes/skills. Of course it is entirely up to you.

EDIT: It seems the engineering physics at UBC is a five-year program.
 
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