Approaching Heat Transfer TNT Exercise Using Log-Log Plots

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to heat transfer, specifically focusing on using log-log plots to analyze the relationship between variables in a given formula. Participants explore different methods to approach the problem, including plotting and mathematical transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on how to approach a specific part of the homework problem, mentioning the formula f(y)=(ro*R^5/E*t^2) and the known values.
  • Another participant suggests multiple methods for analysis, including plotting R^5 vs t^2 to determine the slope.
  • It is proposed to take the logarithm of both sides of the equation to facilitate plotting logR vs log t, with an expected slope of 0.4.
  • Calculating R^5/t^2 for all data points and averaging is also mentioned as a possible approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple methods for solving the problem, indicating a lack of consensus on a single approach. Some express a preference for using logarithmic transformations, while others suggest direct plotting.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved which method is superior or more appropriate for the problem, and there may be assumptions regarding the data points and their applicability to the proposed methods.

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Homework Statement


I would really appreciate if you could give me some hints regarding what exactly to do at iv)[/B]
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Given formulas:
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Homework Equations


f(y)=(ro*R^5/E*t^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


we know that f(y)=0.75
1ton TNT=4.184*10^9 J
ro=1.003kg/m^3

We have the above formula:f(y)=(ro*R^5/E*t^2)
we have almost everything, but I do not know exactly how to approach this problem and what exactly to do with that table.I was thinking of doing the slope,[/B]
 
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gneill said:
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There are several possibilities:
1. Plot ##R^5## vs ##t^2## and determine the slope.

2. Take the log of both sides of the equation: ##5 \log R = \log \frac{Ef}{\rho}+2 \log t## or $$\log R = 0.2\log \frac{Ef}{\rho}+0.4 \log t$$
Use your graphics package (say Excel) to plot logR vs log t. The slope should be 0.4. Have your graphics package determine the equation of the best straight line. Find the value of R at 1 sec.

3. Calculate ##R^5/t^2## for all four data points, and take the average.

I would always choose item 2.
 
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Chestermiller said:
There are several possibilities:
1. Plot ##R^5## vs ##t^2## and determine the slope.

2. Take the log of both sides of the equation: ##5 \log R = \log \frac{Ef}{\rho}+2 \log t## or $$\log R = 0.2\log \frac{Ef}{\rho}+0.4 \log t$$
Use your graphics package (say Excel) to plot logR vs log t. The slope should be 0.4. Have your graphics package determine the equation of the best straight line. Find the value of R at 1 sec.

3. Calculate ##R^5/t^2## for all four data points, and take the average.

I would always choose item 2.

Thank you, much appreciated !
 

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