Approaching Infinity: Simplifying Radical Expressions

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The discussion focuses on solving the limit of the expression as x approaches infinity, specifically the limit of f(x) = √(3x² + 8x + 6) - √(3x² + 3x + 1). Participants suggest rationalizing the expression by multiplying the numerator and denominator by the conjugate, which simplifies the radicals. The solution ultimately leads to the limit being equal to 5/(2√3). While some participants ask for easier methods, it is noted that this approach is effective for handling indeterminate forms involving differences of radicals. The complexity of the solution is acknowledged, with suggestions to streamline the steps taken.
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Homework Statement


\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}-\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}


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I truly have no idea how to solve this. I know I need to get x in some rational form like 5/x but I'm not sure how to do this with the radicals.


Thanks for any point in the right direction
 
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How would you rationalize the fraction if that were in the denominator? Do the same type of thing here.
 
Actually the quotient law of radicals just dawned on me...
\frac{\sqrt{a}}{\sqrt{b}} = \sqrt {\frac{a}{b}}
 
But you don't have a quotient of radicals! learningphysics suggestion was that you think of this as
\frac{\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}-\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}}{1}
and multiply both numerator and denominator by
\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}+\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}
the divide both numerator and denominator by x.
 
Yeah I solved it, I needed that law to solve it this way:

\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}-\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}}

\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\frac{\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}-\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}}{1}

\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\frac{\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}-\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}}{1} \cdot \frac{\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}+\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}}{\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}+\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}}

\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\frac{3x^2+8x+6-3x^2-3x-1}{\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}+\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}}

\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\frac{3x^2+8x+6-3x^2-3x-1}{\sqrt{3x^2+8x+6}+\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1}}\cdot\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{\frac{1}{x}}

\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\frac{5x+5(\frac{1}{x})}{(\sqrt{3x^2+ 8x+6}+\sqrt{3x^2+3x+1})\cdot\sqrt{(\frac{1}{x})^2} } <---

\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\frac{5+\frac{5}{x}}{\sqrt{3+\frac{8}{x}+\frac{6}{x^2}}+\sqrt{3+\frac{3}{x}+\frac{1}{x^2}}}

f(\infty)=\frac{5+\frac{5}{\infty}}{\sqrt{3+\frac{8}{\infty}+\frac{6}{\infty^2}}+\sqrt{3+\frac{3}{\infty}+\frac{1}{\infty^2}}}

f(\infty)=\frac{5+0}{\sqrt{3+0+0}+\sqrt{3+0+0}}

\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\frac{5}{2\sqrt{3}}

Is there an easier way to do it or something?
 
Rationalizing that you get:

\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow \infty}}f(x)=\frac{5\sqrt{3}}{6}
 
Jwill said:
Is there an easier way to do it or something?

Easier? Not really: this is pretty much the best "tool" for dealing with indeterminate differences. Some people call this method "multiplication by a conjugate factor". The idea is to exploit "the difference of two squares" to eliminate the radicals and (one hopes) to simplify the expression. It can also be used on limits of rational functions with differences in the denominator.
 
Jwill, can you explain to me why you multiplied the numerator and denominator by 1/x in the 5th step please?
 
banjolita said:
Jwill, can you explain to me why you multiplied the numerator and denominator by 1/x in the 5th step please?

It's basically a clever from of one to solve the limit. You just find the highest (nth degree) and multiply the numerator and denominator by 1/x^n.
 
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The work only seems complex because you showed unnecessary working in my opinion. You would only need lines 3, 5 and 7 to justify your answer.
 

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