Aquarium Pressure Problem Solution Explanation

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The discussion revolves around calculating forces exerted by water in an aquarium tank, specifically focusing on the bottom and front surfaces of the tank. The tank dimensions are provided, and participants are exploring the implications of pressure and integration in their calculations.

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  • Participants discuss using mass and gravitational force for calculating the force on the bottom of the tank, while others suggest integration for the front window due to varying pressure with depth. Questions arise about the setup of integrals and the relevance of atmospheric pressure in the calculations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem, with some participants providing guidance on integrating pressure over area. Multiple interpretations regarding the inclusion of atmospheric pressure are being considered, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without a clear consensus.

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Participants are navigating the ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the inclusion of atmospheric pressure and the method of integration, highlighting the need for clarity in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


An aquarium tank is 100 cm long, 35 cm wide, and 40 cm deep. It is filled to the top

a)What is the force of the water on the bottom (100 cm x 35 cm) of the tank?

b) What is the force of the water on the front window (100 cm x 40 cm) of the tank?


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For part a, can I just use I find the mass of the water and use mg? Actually I think I might have to use integration, but could someone explain it to me?
 
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Yes, for part a you can just use mg. Why? Think of a force diagram. For part b you have to integrate pressure over area.
 
For part b, I'm pretty sure I have to use integration.
P=Po + ro*g*y where y is the depth
P= (101300Pa) + (1000kg/m^3)(9.80)d

Say I cut the front surface into little rectangles--each with width .35 and height dy
So would I multiply the above by .35dy and take the integral evaluated from 0 to 40 ? Please help me set up this integral. Thanks
 
You don't cut it into little rectangles, it's one big rectangle. Just integrate. P= (101300Pa) + (1000kg/m^3)(9.80)y. Where y is depth and x is the distance coordinate across the front. You'll want to integrate this dx*dy. What's the range of x and y? BTW it only asks for the pressure of the water, so you might want to drop the 101300Pa. That's from the air. The question is a little ambiguous about that. Try it both ways to make sure.
 
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I don't understand what you mean by integrate this dx*dy.

Would I take the integral from 0 to .40 of (1000kg/m^3)(9.80)y * (1.0m) dy?
 
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I don't understand what you mean by integrate this dx*dy.

Would I take the integral from 0 to .40 of (1000kg/m^3)(9.80)y * (1.0m) dy?

That works also. If you haven't done double integration don't worry about it.
 
Ok so is this right: Integral of 1000*9.80*y dy

= 4900 y^2 evaluated from 0 to .4

4900* (.4)^2 = 784 N

Also why is it that I drop the pressure from the air--is it because the force from the air is down, but the force of the water on the front of the glass is horizontal?
 
Yes. That's right. But try to understand why you would or would not keep the air pressure. Pressure doesn't have a direction so it's not because of direction. The TOTAL force on the inside of the front of the aquarium is the sum of the force due to air above PLUS the force due to the water inside. If that's what you want, you include it. If you don't want it then don't include it. You have to read the question and decide. A reasonable reason to not include it is that there is also air pressure pushing into the tank from the outside air. Which approximately cancels the contribution of the air to the inside pressure. So the net force on the front of the tank is just that due to the water.
 

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