Arclength of Curve y=2ln(sin(x/2)) | Calculating Arclength Formula

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The discussion revolves around finding the length of the curve defined by the function y=2ln(sin(x/2)) over the interval from π/3 to π. The focus is on applying the arclength formula and addressing the complexities involved in solving the resulting integral.

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  • The original poster attempts to compute the arclength by deriving the necessary integral but expresses uncertainty about the complexity of the integral. Some participants suggest utilizing trigonometric identities to simplify the integral, while others note the importance of adjusting bounds after substitutions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into simplifications and corrections regarding variable substitutions. There is a recognition of the integral's complexity, and some guidance has been provided to help clarify the approach.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the evaluation of the integral and the need to adjust bounds after substitution, indicating that participants are navigating through the intricacies of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Find the length of the curve y=2ln(sin\frac{1}{2}x), \frac{\pi}{3}\leq x\leq\pi


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Alright so I figured out the derivative of y is cot(1/2)x so I put it into the arclength formula to get:
\int_{\frac{\pi}{3}}^{\pi} \sqrt{1+{cot^{2}(\frac{x}{2})}}dx

But I don't know how to solve that.. Looking at wolfram it seems like a really ugly integral so I don't want to put a lot of effort into solving it if I have the integral wrong.

Thanks for any help.
 
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Never forget your Pythagorean identities. Divide sin^2 \theta +cos^2 \theta = 1 through by sin^2 \theta to get 1+cot^2\theta = csc^2\theta. Just let \theta = \frac{x}{2} and the integral simplifies greatly.
 
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Never forget your Pythagorean identities. Divide sin^2 \theta +cos^2 \theta = 1 through by sin^2 \theta to get 1+cot^2\theta = csc^2\theta. Just let \theta = \frac{x}{2} and the integral simplifies greatly.

Yeah I just kept going and realized that. So I did:
u=x/2 du=1/2 dx
2\int_{\frac{\pi}{6}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sqrt{1+cot^{2}u}du=2\int_{\frac{\pi}{6}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}\sqrt{csc^{2}u}du=2ln(cscu+cotu)|_{\frac{\pi}{6}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}
 
Yeah I finished it and evaluated, -2ln(2+\sqrt{3})

Forgot that I knew what the integral of csc was :P. Thanks.
 
Don't forget to change your bounds after making a substitution.
 

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