Are My Partial Derivatives Correct in Finding the Equations of Motion?

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The discussion revolves around finding the equations of motion for a particle in a D-dimensional flat space using a specified Lagrangian. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations involving partial derivatives and the resulting equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the equations of motion using the Euler-Lagrange equation but questions their approach to taking partial derivatives. Some participants suggest re-evaluating the differentiation of the potential term and clarify the relationship between the variables involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the differentiation process and addressing potential misunderstandings regarding the expressions used. There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of the variables and their relationships, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of an implied summation in the expression for r, which may affect the calculations. The original poster also notes confusion regarding the multiplication of constants in their equations.

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Homework Statement



Find equations of motion (eom) of a particle moving in a D-dimensional flat space with the following Lagrangian

L = (1/2)mv2i - k/ra,

r = root(x2i), m,k,a are constants

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The Attempt at a Solution



The equations of motion are given by d/dt(∂L/∂vi) - ∂L/∂xi = 0

So, when I work all this out I get
ma = ka/xia+1

I have a feeling this isn;t correct though.

Am I doing the partials wrong?
 
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Yes, you're taking the partial with respect to xi incorrectly. Try writing out the potential term in terms of the xi's and differentiating.

Also why is a multiplying m? How did the exponent of r get over there?
 
vela said:
Yes, you're taking the partial with respect to xi incorrectly. Try writing out the potential term in terms of the xi's and differentiating.

Also why is a multiplying m? How did the exponent of r get over there?

U = k/ra = k/root(x2i)a
= k/xai
= kx-ai

Differentiating this with respect to xi gives -akx-a-1


As for the last part; sorry, when I wrote a on the LHS I was referring to the second derivative of xi w.r.t. time
 
Maybe_Memorie said:
U = k/ra = k/root(x2i)a
= k/xai
= kx-ai

Differentiating this with respect to xi gives -akx-a-1
How are you going from k/root(x2i)a to k/xai?

Are you saying, for instance, that [itex]\sqrt{x_1^2+x_2^2} = x_1+x_2[/itex]?

EDIT: Oh, I see why we're getting different answers. I think there's an implied summation: [tex]r=\sqrt{x_i^2} = \sqrt{x_i x_i} = \sqrt{\sum_i x_i^2}[/tex]
 

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