Are Subalgebras Merely Specific Submatrices in Lisi's ESToE?

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The discussion highlights a desire for a simplified understanding of Lie Algebra and its applications in modern physics, particularly in relation to Lisi's ESToE paper. The complexity of the concepts, including the unification of fields in the standard model and gravity through an E8 principal bundle connection, is noted as challenging for those without a strong mathematical background. Key terms like "triality" and "subalgebras" are mentioned, with some confusion expressed about their meanings and implications. The conversation reflects a broader struggle to grasp advanced mathematical frameworks and their relevance to theoretical physics.
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I sure wish I had studied a bit of Lie Algebra so that I might at least have a clue as to what they are all talking about!

How about some AESToE for Dummies?
 
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50 years ago I took a course in "modern algebra" and Sophus Lie was in there.
The stuff these guys are doing is far-removed from anything I ever remember seeing.
The symbols are also confusing. But then, I don't pretend to be a mathematician...
I'd rather be whatever it is that I am. Confused, most likely.
 
From the abstract of Lisi's ESToE paper -

All fields of the standard model and gravity are unified as an E8 principal bundle connection. A non-compact real form of the E8 Lie algebra has G2 and F4 subalgebras which break down to strong su(3), electroweak su(2) x u(1), gravitational so(3,1), the frame-Higgs, and three generations of fermions related by triality. The interactions and dynamics of these 1-form and Grassmann valued parts of an E8 superconnection are described by the curvature and action over a four dimensional base manifold.

and the problem is Ivan? :biggrin:
 
Triality - I thought that was a proceeding with a judge, a jury and a gallows out back behind the courthouse in Crawford TX -- not a flavor of fermions.
 
Astronuc said:
From the abstract of Lisi's ESToE paper -

and the problem is Ivan? :biggrin:

:biggrin:

Are subalgebras really just submatrices that meet specific criteria?.
 
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