I Are There Other Massless Objects Besides Gluons and Photons?

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The discussion explores the existence of massless objects beyond gluons and photons, with participants noting that energy is not a physical object but a property that relates to mass. It is clarified that while photons are massless, they possess energy, which is often misinterpreted in terms of mass. Gravitons are mentioned as a theoretical massless particle, alongside Weyl fermions. The conversation also touches on the concept of mass in systems made of massless particles, like laser beams, which have non-zero mass due to the collective energy of photons. Ultimately, the relationship between mass, energy, and momentum is emphasized, confirming that photons have zero rest mass.
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Are there any other things/objects in our universe that are massless other than Gluons and Photons? I guess energy is massless, but it's not so much a thing, more-so a property.
 
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Bradfordly1 said:
I guess energy is massless, but it's not so much a thing, more-so a property.

Indeed, energy is a property of objects and systems of objects, it is not something in and of itself. But it does have mass. Or, rather, arranging a system such that it has more energy than before will mean it has more mass as well.
 
Mass and energy are equivalent. When you say something is mass-less, it usually means that the rest mass is zero. This applies to photons and gluons and gravitons (if they exist).
 
Graviton, if it exists at all.
 
Don't forget Weyl fermions.
 
What about a shadow, or digital information?
 
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Those aren't physical objects.
 
The OP didn't really qualify what a Thing or an Object was. If you want a macro-sized object, it would have to be an object made of massless particles, like a laser beam.
 
Laser is an acronym for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation. It is made of photons of a specific wavelength, but photons none the less and it does have mass just as all photons do, however small it is.
 
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Austin Z W said:
but photons none the less and it does have mass just as all photons do, however small it is.

The mass of the beam is non-zero, but the mass of each photon is zero.
 
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Each photon has energy which means it has mass. The mass is usually said to be zero in most cases and equations because it is such a small amount of mass.
 
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Austin Z W said:
Each photon has energy which means it has mass. The mass is usually said to be zero in most cases and equations because it is such a small amount of mass.
That is not correct. The mass, energy, and momentum of a particle are related by ##E^2=(mc^2)^2+(pc)^2##. For a photon we have ##E=pc## so a bit of algebra will quickly show that the mass of a photon is precisely exactly zero.
 
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