Are These Matrices a Basis for M2x2(R)?

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The original poster is tasked with determining whether a given set of 2x2 matrices forms a basis for the vector space M2x2(R). The matrices in question are A1, A2, A3, and A4, and the discussion revolves around the concepts of linear independence and spanning sets within this context.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to show that the matrices are linearly independent and span the vector space. There are questions about the definitions and the implications of linear independence for the set of matrices.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on starting points for the problem, such as exploring the linear combination of the matrices. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify definitions and assumptions related to the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the importance of not conflating individual matrix properties with the properties of the set as a whole. Additionally, there are indications of a separate, unrelated question being posed in the thread, which may affect the focus of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Determine whether the following 2 x 2 matrices form a basis of the vector space M2x2(R) of all (2x2)-matrices over R:

A1=
1 0
0 0

A2=
2 2
0 0

A3=
3 2
1 0

A4=
4 3
2 1

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The Attempt at a Solution



So for them to be bases, they must be a linearly independent set that spans the vector space. How can i go about showing this for each matrix?
 
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The question asked if those vectors form a basis. The question didn't ask if each individual vector was a basis (such a question wouldn't even make sense).
 
Hurkyl said:
The question asked if those vectors form a basis. The question didn't ask if each individual vector was a basis (such a question wouldn't even make sense).

Do i need to show that each matrix is invertible?
 
I think you need to start with the definitions, to make sure you understand just what the question is asking.
 
Hurkyl said:
I think you need to start with the definitions, to make sure you understand just what the question is asking.

Oh so a1...a4 must all be linealry independent?
 
karnten07 said:
Oh so a1...a4 must all be linealry independent?
Yes, that is what you need to show.
 
Hurkyl said:
Yes, that is what you need to show.

Thanks, library closes now and no internet at new flat :cry:
 
Try to solve c1*A1+c2*A2+c3*A3+c4*A4=0. It's pretty easy. What are the solutions for c1...c4? What does that say about linear independence?
 
Hi, If I have a question i post it here and you will respond (if you are on line)?
 
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Hi DIck can you help me with this problem..."find the determinant of the linear transformation T(M)=[1,2,2,3]M+M[1,2,2,3] from the space V of symmetric 2x2 matrices to V
 
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In the future, always post a new thread for a new problem, ok? Otherwise this will get buried and not enough people will see it. The answer to your question is not obvious to me, maybe somebody else knows.
 
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hi dick thank you for responding. i posted a new thread. if i have to log off how will i be able to find it again? a response will be in my email box? i don't know how this forum works are there instructions somewhere?
 

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