Area bounded inside the quarter-circles.

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The discussion revolves around a geometry problem involving the area bounded inside quarter-circles and a square measuring 7 cm on each side. Participants explore various methods to determine the shaded area within the square.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using integration and equations based on geometric relationships to find the area. There are attempts to derive equations related to the areas of quarter-circles and triangular segments. Some express uncertainty about the completeness of the equations presented.

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The conversation includes various approaches to the problem, with some participants questioning the validity of the equations and others suggesting integration as a method. There is a recognition of differing perspectives on the complexity of the solution, but no consensus has been reached.

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One participant notes that the problem originates from a Mensa question, implying a potential expectation of a clever solution. There is also mention of a possible typo in the equations provided, which adds to the uncertainty in the discussion.

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Its a question that I had from a friend in the past.
I had tried solving it but to no avail.

Have tried integration and stuff like that, but I think there is an easier way to solve this question.

Question -> Square of 7cm, find the shaded area.
[PLAIN]http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/555/questionx.jpg

Thanks for any help!
 
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Call the area in the center Z, the four pieces that border Z Y, and the flattish triangular pieces that don't border Z X.

Now write three equations based on the following:

1) The area of one of the quartercircles is pi/4 times the area of the square.
2) Consider the area if you take the two quartercircles at opposite ends of a diagonal. Together they are pi/2 * area of the square. But the entire square is included in both, with some excess.
3) Consider the "rounded" equilateral triangle made up of Z and the two Ys and X on one side of the square. Find the area of this "rounded" equilateral triangle, and set it equal to those three.

Once you do this you'll have three equations in three unknowns and voila!
 
i just realized that the equations can't be solved based on your equations.

it still results in 2 equations and I AM UNABLE to find your third equation. any help please?
 
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You can find the area of piece X by integration.

ehild
 
so it all comes down to integration?
okay, thanks...

btw, this was a question from mensa, so i think there should be a brilliant way to solve it -.-
 
It doesn't look to hard to split the center piece into 4 triangles and 4 circular segments.


But anyways, who's more brilliant? The person who solves it in a minute with integration, or the person who spends 5 minutes trying to come up with a "brilliant" solution? :wink:
 
For a unit square, the three equations are:

[itex]X + 2Y = 1 - \pi/4[/itex]
[itex]Z + 2Y = \pi/2 - 1[/itex]
[itex]X + 2Y + Z = \pi/3 - \sqrt{3}/4[/itex]

Solving these yields [itex]Z = \pi/3 + 1 - \sqrt{3}[/itex]
 
hgfalling said:
For a unit square, the three equations are:

[itex]X + 2Y = 1 - \pi/4[/itex]
[itex]Z + 2Y = \pi/2 - 1[/itex]
[itex]X + 2Y + Z = \pi/3 - \sqrt{3}/4[/itex]

Solving these yields [itex]Z = \pi/3 + 1 - \sqrt{3}[/itex]

It is really brilliant! But isn't a typo in the first equation ? It should be [itex]2X + Y = 1 - \pi/4[/itex], isn't it?

ehild
 
Oh, right, that's correct.
 

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