Area of a graph with polar coordinates

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the area of a graph defined by the polar equation r = sin(3t). Participants are exploring the characteristics of the graph and the appropriate limits of integration for calculating the area.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the shape of the graph and its properties, including where the graph intersects the origin. There are attempts to establish the limits of integration for the area calculation, with some confusion regarding the correct values of theta.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on setting up the integral for the area calculation. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the limits of integration, and some participants are clarifying their understanding of the relationship between theta and the sine function.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the implications of using polar coordinates and the specific characteristics of the sine function in relation to the problem. There is mention of potential errors in earlier calculations and the need to clarify the limits for the integral.

glog
Messages
17
Reaction score
0
I'm trying to plot the graph r = sin 3t and find its area.

This is how far I've gotten:

The graph looks like a plane propellor with one propellor pointing downward, and two pointing up-left / up-right, with the length of each equal to 1. Now to get the area...

I have to figure out where the graph reaches 0... which I'm not sure how to do (I solve sin3t = 0 and get t = 0, pi, 2pi ?? )...
or...
I can just get the area from 0 to 2pi... so i'll try that:

A = intergral of (1/2 (sin 3t)^2 dt) from 0 to 2pi

the solution is:
1/2( t/2 - 1/12 sin(6t) )

If I plug in 0 or 2pi into this and solve, the last term becomes 0 and I get a weird answer... what do I do?!?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
[tex]\frac 1 2\int_a^b r^2d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\sin\theta=0[/tex]

[tex]\theta=0, \ \pi, \ 2\pi[/tex]

So the first limit starts and ends from [tex][0,\pi][/tex] for [tex]\sin\theta[/tex], but you want [tex]\sin 3\theta[/tex], so [tex]3\theta=...[/tex]

Solve for [tex]\theta[/tex], that would be your first limit of integration, and just multiply by a "constant" that gets you the whole area.
 
Last edited:
can you elaborate on what you wrote a bit?

sorry I'm just not sure how you got that theta = 0, pi, 2pi/3... since this last one does not equal 0 for sin(theta)

also 3*theta = inverse sin( 0, pi, etc.) = 0
therefore, 2pi/3 works here since it becomes 2pi and sin2pi = 0...
 
Sorry! I was fixing latex and brain froze a bit and accidently put down 2pi/3. Should be 2pi as you said.

Anyways, you just want the starting point (obviously 0) and the ending point which it becomes 0 again for the first petal. You only need sint=0, which is 0-pi. Now find it for sin3t.
 
Last edited:
hey i got it! sweet!
appreciate your help :)
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K