Area under Integral Calculation

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The problem involves calculating the area between the curve defined by the function y=e^{-x}|sinx| and the x-axis for x≥0. Participants are exploring the implications of the absolute value in the integral and the behavior of the sine and cosine functions across the specified interval.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial approach of integrating the function directly and question the validity of taking the absolute value throughout the integral. Some suggest breaking the integral into segments to account for the oscillatory nature of the sine function. Others propose using series representations to evaluate the integral.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the integral, with some participants affirming the correctness of certain steps while others express confusion about specific calculations. Multiple interpretations of the series and geometric sums are being examined, indicating a productive dialogue without a clear consensus.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the information available for discussion. There is also an emphasis on verifying calculations and assumptions related to the integral's setup.

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This question is quite hard for me.

Homework Statement


Find the area between the curve [tex]y=e^{-x}\left|sinx\right|[/tex] and the straight line y=0 for [tex]x\geq 0[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]\int_{0}^{\infty}e^{-x}\left|sinx\right|dx=-e^{-x}\left|sinx\right|+\int_{0}^{\infty}e^{-x}\left|cosx\right|dx[/tex]
[tex]=-e^{-x}\left|sinx\right|-e^{-x}\left|cosx\right|-\int_{0}^{\infty}e^{-x}\left|sinx\right|dx[/tex]
[tex]\int_{0}^{\infty}e^{-x}\left|sinx\right|dx=\frac{-e^{-x}\left|sinx\right|-e^{-x}\left|cosx\right|}{2}[/tex]
 
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Because sine and cosine cross the x-axis, you can't just take the absolute value thorough the integral like that.
 
Than ,actually, i should divide it to pieces.
[tex]\int_{0}^{\infty}e^{-x}\left|sinx\right|dx=\int_{0}^{\pi}e^{-x}sinxdx+\int_{\pi}^{2\pi}e^{-x}(-sinx)dx+\cdots[/tex]
[tex]=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}(-1)^k\int_{k\pi}^{(k+1)\pi}e^{-x}sinxdx[/tex]
 
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Is it equals to
[tex](-1)^k\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{e^{-k\pi}}{2}[/tex] ?
 
Oh,sorry
[tex]\frac{1}{2}+\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(-1)^ke^{-k\pi}[/tex]
 
from this one I've found [tex]\frac{(1-e^{-\pi})}{2(1+e^{-\pi})}[/tex]



Is this answer true?Please,check.
 
Posts 3 and 5 are definitely correct, though either you or I have made a sign error on the sum of the geometric series, check that again just to be safe.
 
I did it in this way
[tex]\frac{1}{2}-\frac{e^{-\pi}}{1-e^{-2\pi}}+\frac{e^{-2\pi}}{1-e^{-2\pi}}[/tex]
 
Your last post makes no sense to me :( Maybe I'm doing the mistake, so here's how I'm getting it

[tex]\frac{1}{2}+\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(-1)^ke^{-k\pi} = \frac{1}{2} + \frac{-e^{-\pi}}{1+e^{-\pi}} = \frac{1-3e^{-\pi}}{2(1-e^{-\pi})}[/tex]
 
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Hey,Gib Z
Should't be your answer be same as mine.
 
  • #11
lol well i don't know if your making the mistake or me, but i can't see mine, so unless u do, check ur answer again
 

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