Arithmetic mean Fermi Dirac & Bose Einstein

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the arithmetic mean of Fermi-Dirac (FD) and Bose-Einstein (BE) distributions and its equivalence to the Maxwell-Boltzmann (MB) distribution for indistinguishable particles. The participant successfully demonstrated this equivalence through calculations involving a system of two particles with three possible energy states. The conversation highlights the classical behavior of quantum mechanical averaged values, particularly noting that the MB distribution may not accurately represent the behavior of FD and BE distributions at low temperatures, especially near the Fermi energy.

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Hi everybody, I was doing one asignment form class, I was tasked to prove that in one system, the arimetic mean of FD and BE distributions is equal to MB's distribution for undishtingable particles.
After doing the numbers I found out that it actually was, but I don't know why this happens, can someone explain this to me or point me to a place where I can learn that?
Thanks.
 
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I think this is a demonstration that the quantum mechanical averaged values behave classically.
Mind that the classical analogue of the Bose Einstein/Fermi Dirac distributions is the Maxwell Boltzmann distribution (give the number density as a function of the energy of the system).
 
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For all temperatures? That would surprise me. Fermi-Dirac includes particles at an energy way above the energies Maxwell-Boltzmann at low temperatures would give, and I don't see how MB would reproduce the step coming from Fermi-Dirac at the Fermi energy.
 
Well, to be honest I have not advanced that much in theory lessons. All I know is that I have a system with two particles and three possible enrgies for them and I had to study the partiton function for each of the three distributions, I checked that the math were right and saw that it acturally worked so I asked the quastion.

By the way thank you very much for your anwsers.
 
Ah, for only two particles it might look different.
I'm not convinced that it works out for all temperatures, however. In the limit of large temperature: sure.
 
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