Atwood Machine: Find M in Terms of m1 & m2

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The discussion focuses on determining the mass M in an Atwood machine in terms of m1 and m2 to achieve static equilibrium. The user correctly identifies the tension equations T1=Mg and T1=2T2, leading to the equation T2=[m1(g+a)+m2(g-a)]/2. The user struggles with eliminating variables g and a to express M solely in terms of m1 and m2. The solution involves solving the two linear equations for T2 and acceleration a separately, ultimately allowing for the cancellation of g.

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Homework Statement


In the Atwood’s machine, what should M be, in terms of m1 and m2, so that it doesn’t move?
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Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I've set T1=Mg as T1 is the tension of the rope attached to M. m1 and m2 are both connected together by the same rope so I assumed T1=2T2 .
I set up the equations
T2-m1g=m1a
T2-m2g=-m2a (negative due to m1 and m2 moving in opposite directions).
I then added the two together to get
T2=[m1(g+a)+m2(g-a)]/2.
Which, since T1=2T2=Mg, it can be expressed as
M=[m1(g+a)+m2(g-a)]/g (I think).
Which is where I'm stuck now. I'm unsure of how to get rid of g and a in order to have my answer in terms of just m1 and m2. It's probably pretty simple, but I can't quite get it.. It seems as g can be canceled out from the current equation, but I'm not sure about a.
I've tried canceling out the g and then solving for a which gives me
a=M/m1-m2
But upon plugging that in as a, I am unsure of how to proceed.
 
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Please either describe the set-up or post a diagram. Not all Atwood's machines are the same.
 
Right, apologies. I've added a photo.
 
You have 2 linear algebraic equations in two unknowns, T2 and a. Solve for them separately.
 

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