Atwood's Machine Acceleration Rate and Maximum Value

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The problem involves an Atwood's machine with two containers connected by a cord over a frictionless pulley. One container is losing mass at a constant rate, and the task is to determine how the acceleration of the system changes over time.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the equations governing the system's acceleration and explore how the changing mass of container 1 affects the overall acceleration. There are attempts to derive expressions for the acceleration and its rate of change with respect to time.

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Some participants have shared their attempts at deriving the acceleration and its derivative, while others suggest alternative approaches to express the mass of container 1 as a function of time. There is an indication of progress in understanding the relationships involved, but no consensus on the final approach has been reached.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. The problem involves specific mass values and a constant rate of mass loss, which are critical to the discussion.

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Two containers are connected by a cord (of negligible mass) passing over a frictionless pulley (also of negligible mass). At time t = 0 container 1 has mass 1.3 kg and container 2 has mass 2.8 kg, but container 1 is losing mass (through a leak) at the constant rate of 0.200 kg/s. At what rate is the acceleration magnitude of the containers changing at (a)t = 0 and (b)t = 3 s? (c) When does the acceleration reach its maximum value?

Homework Equations


T - m1 g= m1 a
T - m2 g= -m2 a
a= m2 - m1 g/ m2 + m1

3. Attempt to solve the problem:

I have been trying to solve this problem, but I can get the same answer as the book.
The answer in the the book is:
a)0.653m/s3
b)0.896m/s3
c)6.50s

a=[m2-m1/m2+m1]g
da/dt = -[(2.8-m1)/(2.8+m1)^2](dm1/dt)g
after this, i don't know what to do anymore. Am i doing it right?Thanks! :)
 
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Show (at least) one of your attempts.
 
arenzob said:
a=[m2-m1/m2+m1]g
da/dt = -[(2.8-m1)/(2.8+m1)^2](dm1/dt)g
after this, i don't know what to do anymore. Am i doing it right?
I don't think that the derivative of the acceleration is going to help you. Look instead to create an expression for the mass of M1 with respect to time to use in the acceleration equation.
 
I have solved my problem.
All I did was that:
da/dt = da/dm1 ⋅ dm1/dt = [(m2+m1)(-1)-(m2-m1)(1)]/(m2+m1)2 ⋅ dm1/dt
da/dt = g [-2m2/(m2+m1)2] ⋅ dm/dt
da/dt = (-3.92)[m2/(m2+m1)^2]
a) at t=0; m1= 1.3
da/dt= 0.653 m/s^3
b) at t=3; m1=1.3-0.2(3)=0.7
da/dt= 0.896 m/s^3
c) if m=0; a=max
m - 0.2t =0
t=1.3/0.2
t=6.5s
 

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