Automatic detection using wireless sensors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a system for automatically detecting if a specific person is present in their office, amidst the challenge of multiple individuals entering and exiting. Participants explore various sensor technologies and methods, including pressure sensors, RFID tags, and IR sensors, while considering the need for the system to differentiate between the office owner and others.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a pressure sensor on the chair to detect the office owner, noting the limitations of tracking in small office spaces.
  • Another participant proposes using an RFID tag in an ID badge, questioning the necessity of detecting only the owner and suggesting motion sensors for general occupancy detection.
  • A different participant mentions the possibility of existing systems for monitoring inmates as a reference point, although the relevance to the current application is unclear.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of RFID if the door can be closed from the inside, leading to a suggestion of using a switch at the door instead.
  • One participant emphasizes the requirement for the system to be automatic and considers using IR reflective sensors, seeking clarification on their functionality.
  • Another participant argues that IR sensors may not effectively differentiate between the office owner and others, suggesting that RFID at the door could work if it can detect motion in both directions.
  • An alternative idea is presented involving an IP camera with face recognition software for detection.
  • Humorous suggestions include using a strip switch in the chair similar to those in cars for seatbelt detection, or tethering individuals to their desks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and suggestions, with no clear consensus on the best approach. Multiple competing views remain regarding the technology and methods to be used for detection.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness and practicality of various sensor technologies, and there are unresolved questions regarding the specific requirements for the detection system.

Mpume
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I am designing a system that must automatically detect if a person is inside their office. The trick here now is that there are people going in and out and i just want to detect the owner of the office. Tracking them is useless since the average office sizes are not big, 5m width maximum so my next best bet is to have pressure sensor on the chair.

Please help coz I've never used these before and it seems like there are so many variations.

Thanx :-)
 
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How about an RFID tag in their ID badge (asuuming they have ID badges)? It seems strange that the lights would only turn on for the "owner" of the office however, it should really turn on any time someone walks in (in which case you can use a simple motion sensor).
 
Mpume said:
I am designing a system that must automatically detect if a person is inside their office. The trick here now is that there are people going in and out and i just want to detect the owner of the office. Tracking them is useless since the average office sizes are not big, 5m width maximum so my next best bet is to have pressure sensor on the chair.

Please help coz I've never used these before and it seems like there are so many variations.

Thanx :-)

What is the application? You could just use the existing systems for monitoring inmates who are on house arrest...
 
@ Mech Engineer, the RFID is a good idea but they don't have them:-( . I wanted it to detect when people are in their office, then have a display unit eg:7-seg saying that they are available. Hence detect when they are not present, which is why I thought of using the chair since everyone sits on the chair in the office. If i use the tags, how will I know that they have left because the door can be closed from the inside, I need to be able to detect that as well.
@berkemen I not familiar with the systems for inmates, how does that work?
 
Mpume said:
@berkemen I not familiar with the systems for inmates, how does that work?

See "Ankle Monitor" here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_arrest

Honestly, why don't you just put a switch at the door of each office, and have folks flip it ON when they are in their office?
 
The thing is it must be automatic, I know its crazy but it must be done. I was thinking of using IR reflective sensors on the chair, does anyone know that exactly works? I've been researching but i haven't found anything constructive yet...
 
Mpume said:
The thing is it must be automatic, I know its crazy but it must be done. I was thinking of using IR reflective sensors on the chair, does anyone know that exactly works? I've been researching but i haven't found anything constructive yet...

I think you said it has to differentiate between the "owner" of the office versus others. IR sensors aren't going to do that. RFID at the door may be able to work, but it would have to be able to detect motion in versus out too...
 
IP camera with face recognition software.
 
Hmmm, often, when I'm in my office, that's the only time I can be unavailable...

P.S. Berkeman, I love the reference to ankle monitor. Continual interrupts by emails, and texts have been damaging enough. My last work place was inundated with ADD managers - incapable of resolving / remembering simple chains of thought.

If anything, I think it's time for uninterrupted spaces.

- Mike
 
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over thinking it guys

a strip switch in the chair that makes connection when they are sitting in the chair
similar to what is in the passenger side of early cars to detect seatbelt usage
that, or just teather them directly to the desk... ankle locks to the floor
(in 2001 HALS VOICE..." why no fred, you CAN NOT leave early")

dr
 

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