Automorphisms are isomorphisms

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The discussion revolves around properties of automorphisms in group theory, specifically focusing on the relationship between automorphisms and conjugation. The original poster seeks to prove a specific equality involving automorphisms and deduce a property about inner automorphisms.

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  • Participants explore the definition of conjugation and its implications in the context of automorphisms. There are questions about the notation used, such as "Inn" and "trianglelefteq," and clarifications regarding the meaning of conjugation. Some participants express uncertainty about the equality being discussed.

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Participants are actively engaging with the definitions and properties related to automorphisms and conjugation. Clarifications have been provided regarding terminology, and there is an ongoing exploration of the equality in question. No consensus has been reached, but the discussion is productive in addressing misunderstandings.

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If [itex]\sigma\in Aut(G)[/itex] and [itex]\varphi_g[/itex] is conjugation by g prove [itex]\sigma\varphi_g\sigma^{-1}=\varphi_{\sigma(g)}[/itex]. Deduce [itex]Inn(G)\trianglelefteq Aut(G)[/itex]

Let [itex]x\in G[/itex].

[tex]\sigma\varphi_g\sigma^{-1}(x)=\sigma(g\sigma^{-1}(x)g^{-1})=\sigma(g)x\sigma(g)^{-1}[/tex]

Why is this:
[tex]\sigma(g\sigma^{-1}(x)g)=\sigma(g)x\sigma(g)^{-1}[/tex]
 
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Dustinsfl said:
If [itex]\sigma\in Aut(G)[/itex] and [itex]\varphi_g[/itex] is conjugation by g prove [itex]\sigma\varphi_g\sigma^{-1}=\varphi_{\sigma(g)}[/itex]. Deduce [itex]Inn(G)\trianglelefteq Aut(G)[/itex]
You should include more information when you ask questions like this. Perhaps I suck more than most at abstract algebra terminology, but I have no idea what Inn and trianglelefteq means, and I'm not sure "conjugation" means what I'm guessing it means either.

Dustinsfl said:
Let [itex]x\in G[/itex].

[tex]\sigma\varphi_g\sigma^{-1}(x)=\sigma(g\sigma^{-1}(x)g)=\sigma(g)x\sigma(g)^{-1}[/tex]
OK, it looks like my guess about "conjugation" was right. You meant [itex]\varphi_g(h)=ghg^{-1}[/itex], right? (You missed a ^{-1}).

Dustinsfl said:
Why is this:
[tex]\sigma(g\sigma^{-1}(x)g)=\sigma(g)x\sigma(g)^{-1}[/tex]
Because Aut(G) is the group of automorphisms on G. Automorphisms are permutations that preserve the group multiplication operation.
 


Fredrik said:
You should include more information when you ask questions like this. Perhaps I suck more than most at abstract algebra terminology, but I have no idea what Inn and trianglelefteq means, and I'm not sure "conjugation" means what I'm guessing it means either. OK, it looks like my guess about "conjugation" was right. You meant [itex]\varphi_g(h)=ghg^{-1}[/itex], right? (You missed a ^{-1}).Because Aut(G) is the group of automorphisms on G. Automorphisms are permutations that preserve the group multiplication operation.

Inn is inner automorphism. Correct on conjugation.
trianglelefteq is a normal subgroup.

I still don't see how that is equal.
 


I assume that you know that automorphisms are isomorphisms, that isomorphisms are homomorphisms, and that every homomorphism f satisfies f(xy)=f(x)f(y) for all x,y in the group? So what is f(xyz)?

What you actually need to evaluate is of the form f(xyz-1), but it's easy to prove that f(x-1)=f(x)-1 for all x in the group.
 

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