Average Force using Newton's Laws of Motion

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the average force exerted by a man on the ground after stepping off a platform and coming to rest. It is situated within the context of Newton's laws of motion and constant acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of 'average force' and its relation to momentum and Newton's laws. Questions arise about the forces acting on the man during his fall and while he comes to rest, including gravity and the normal force. There is also exploration of the man's acceleration during the deceleration phase.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants providing insights into the forces at play and the kinematic equations that may be relevant. Some participants have calculated the man's speed just before impact and his subsequent acceleration, leading to a numerical estimate of the average force. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final answer, and the conversation remains open-ended.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the acceleration while slowing down is constant, and there are hints provided to use kinematics for solving the problem. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the problem's requirements and terminology.

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Homework Statement



A 89.6 kg man steps off a platform 4.52 m above the ground. He keeps his legs straight as he falls, but at the moment his feet touch the ground his knees begin to bend, and, treated as a particle, he moves an additional 0.88 m before coming to rest. Treating our rigid legged friend as a particle, what is the average force his feet exert on the ground while he slows down?
Note: Assume the acceleration while he is slowing down is constant.

Give your answer in Newtons to the nearest whole number.

Hint: Draw a free body diagram to aid in seeing the forces.

Homework Equations



4 equations of constant acceleration and F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



I was rather confused at the question's requirements to begin with, specifically with the terms 'average force' (I looked up average force to be only related to Δmomentum/Δtime, and this question is only with respect to "Newton's laws of motion") and "while he slows down". Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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What is the man's acceleration as he comes to rest? To find the 'average force', just pretend that the force exerted by the ground on him is constant. What other forces act on him?
 
Well, since the question hinted to assume acceleration is constant while slowing down, I assumed a=g, but at rest a=0, would it not? From what I can understand, there are two forces on the man - gravity (excuse the poor terminology) and the normal force.
 
AshNotKetchum said:
Well, since the question hinted to assume acceleration is constant while slowing down, I assumed a=g, but at rest a=0, would it not?
You want his acceleration while his feet are touching the ground and he's coming to rest. Sure, before he hits the ground the acceleration = g and after he stops his acceleration is zero. But that's not relevant here. Hint: Use kinematics to solve for the acceleration. What's his speed just as he first touches the ground?
From what I can understand, there are two forces on the man - gravity (excuse the poor terminology) and the normal force.
Good!
 
Alright, so his speed just before he touches the ground is 9.41 m/s.
Then, his acceleration (or deceleration?) is 50.3 m/s^2.
Now, given that I have - okay, I think I got it. The answer was supposed to be something in the order of 5388 N and I got 5386 N, rounding it up.
Thank you so very much.
The final equation stood as
F-mg=ma where a=50.3 m/s^2 and solving for F gave me the aforementioned answer.
 
Good!
 

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