I Averaging Initial & Endstates in Trace Formula

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Basically the question is : since the experiments are repeated and results averaged, should not initial and endstates be mixed states ?

So now we should give two density matrices, so how do we average like in the trace formula : ##\langle A\rangle=tr(\rho A)## ?

Is it ##\rho=\sum_i p_i|\phi_i\rangle\langle\phi_i|## with ##p_i=\langle\phi_i\underbrace{|\Psi\rangle\langle\Psi|}_{\rho_{init}?}\phi_i\rangle##

So that now ##\rho_{init}## were the initial density matrix and hence shall be written as one of a mixed state too with now unknow probabilities ?
 
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If your initial state changes from repetition to repetition that sounds like a possible approach.
You average over the initial state and sum over all final states you consider to be the same outcome.
 
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