I Balancing a teeter-totter problem

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of a teeter-totter system affected by a fan's thrust. Two solutions are proposed regarding the direction of rotation when the fan is turned on: one suggests counterclockwise rotation due to internal forces, while the other argues for clockwise rotation based on external forces. A key point raised is that the universal joint cannot transfer moments, complicating the analysis of the system's behavior. The conversation also touches on the horizontal movement of the man's center of mass while leaning back to counteract the fan's thrust. The thread concludes with a note about the original post being restored after deletion, and a reminder about maintaining thread integrity.
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this is teeter,it can rotate at point B
in first picture fan is turn off and teeter is in balance,point A is universal joint..
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/261054
now fan is turn ON and men is lean back to hold fan thrust...
Question is, will be teeter start rotate in clockwise or in counter clockwise direction?
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/261061two solution:

1) universal joint can't transfer moment only horizontal and vertical forces,so that mean that "side force" act in level of men feet,projection of this force is below point B so teeter will rotate in counter clockwise direction..
here is problem that "side force" is internal force in system but internal force can't "rotate system"..

2)only external force can "rotate system" so thrust at fan act above point B so teeter will rotate in clockwise direction
here is problem that u.j. can't transfer moment ,so how would thrust rotate teeter...

I am with solution 1)

What is your answer?
 
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johnrot said:
...men is lean back to hold fan thrust...
Does his center of mass move horizontally while he leans back?
johnrot said:
I am with solution 1)
Did you consider the horizontal force of the feet on the teeter?
 
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