Ball Motion Down the Incline: Is the Calculated Height Correct?

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The discussion centers around a homework problem involving the motion of a ball down an incline, where the ball rebounds according to the law of reflection. The user seeks feedback on their calculations, particularly regarding the height (y) the ball reaches after rebounding. Several equations related to free fall and oblique motion are presented, with the user arriving at a height of 0.257 m. Other participants provide insights, suggesting that some calculations may be incorrect and clarifying notation used in the equations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately deriving intermediate results to ensure the final answer is correct.
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Hi. I have problem with my homework. I have already searched related theoretic basis and I have already tried to solve it too, but I need some feedback, if my solution is right. I would like to ask you for it. Thank you very much.

Homework Statement


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The ball falls down on the incline from height h (known variable). Then it rebounds according to the law of reflection (angle δ). The ball has to fly through the hole in the wall standing in distance x (known variable). Angle of the incline is α.
Given data:
h = 0,5 m
x = 0,15 m
\alpha = 15°
and all the variables in the picture typed bold.

2+3. Relevant equations and the attempt at a solution
Free fall
acceleration:
a = g
velocity:
v = \int a \ dt = g t + v_0
height:
h = \int v \ dt = \frac{1}{2} g t^2 + v_0 t
v_0 = 0
time of impact:
t = \sqrt {\frac{2h}{g}}
velocity in the time of impact:
v = g t = \sqrt {2gh}

Oblique throw
accelerations:
a_x = 0
a_y = -g
velocities:
v_0 = \sqrt {2gh}
v_x = \int a_x \ dt = v_0 cos \beta
v_y = \int a_y \ dt = -g t + v_0 sin \beta
distances:
x = \int v_x \ dt = v_0 cos \beta t + x_0
y = \int v_y \ dt = - \frac{1}{2} g t^2 + v_0 sin \beta t + y_0
x_0 = 0
y_0 = 0
time of contact with the wall:
t = \frac{x}{v_0 cos \beta}
y = x tg \beta - \frac{x^2}{4 h (cos \beta)^2}

My results with the given data:
y = 0,257 m
Is it right, please?
 
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Welcome to PF.

It seems a little complicated to not solve for the intermediate results along the way, but your answer looks in close agreement to what I get.

I think your last statement for y is not quite right, however.
 
Thank you very much for your help!

Do you think the last y statement is wrong?

I get it from the previous statements this way:

x = v_0 cos \beta \cdot t
t = \frac {x}{v_0 cos \beta}
y = - \frac {1}{2}g t^2 + v_0 sin \beta \cdot t
y = - \frac {1}{2}g (\frac {x}{v_0 cos \beta})^2 + v_0 sin \beta \cdot {\frac {x}{v_0 cos \beta}}
y = - \frac {1}{2}g \frac {x^2}{v_0^2 (cos \beta)^2} + sin \beta \cdot {\frac {x}{ cos \beta}}
v_0 = \sqrt{2gh}
y = - \frac {1}{2}g \frac {x^2}{2gh (cos \beta)^2} + sin \beta \cdot {\frac {x}{cos \beta}}
y = - \frac {1}{4} \frac {x^2}{h (cos \beta)^2} + x \cdot {\frac {sin \beta}{cos \beta}}
y = - \frac {x^2}{4 h (cos \beta)^2} + x \cdot tg \beta
 
Kat3rina said:
Thank you very much for your help!

Do you think the last y statement is wrong?

I get it from the previous statements this way:

x = v_0 cos \beta \cdot t
t = \frac {x}{v_0 cos \beta}
y = - \frac {1}{2}g t^2 + v_0 sin \beta \cdot t
y = - \frac {1}{2}g (\frac {x}{v_0 cos \beta})^2 + v_0 sin \beta \cdot {\frac {x}{v_0 cos \beta}}
y = - \frac {1}{2}g \frac {x^2}{v_0^2 (cos \beta)^2} + sin \beta \cdot {\frac {x}{ cos \beta}}
v_0 = \sqrt{2gh}
y = - \frac {1}{2}g \frac {x^2}{2gh (cos \beta)^2} + sin \beta \cdot {\frac {x}{cos \beta}}
y = - \frac {1}{4} \frac {x^2}{h (cos \beta)^2} + x \cdot {\frac {sin \beta}{cos \beta}}
y = - \frac {x^2}{4 h (cos \beta)^2} + x \cdot tg \beta

Sorry. I didn't recognize your tgβ notation as tanβ with t and g also being variables of the solution.
 
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