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News Berkeley, stop the pseudoscience

  1. May 16, 2015 #1

    nsaspook

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    Look, phone! Must draft law. Better now.
     
  5. May 16, 2015 #4

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    It's also illegal to bring radioactive material into Berkeley. Even one disintigration. Oh, and tritium exit signs are mandated.
     
  6. May 16, 2015 #5

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    Problem solved, then - no computing device, phone included, must be allowed in the area.
     
  7. May 16, 2015 #6

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    Oh my, this sounds really dangerous - they should close off that place to children at least.
     
  9. May 16, 2015 #8

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    Warning: Viewing this post will result in radiation exposure.
     
  10. May 16, 2015 #9

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    Just typing that message in California causes exposure.
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  11. May 17, 2015 #10

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    Off with their heads.

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  14. May 17, 2015 #13
    That picture is so disturbing.
     
  15. May 18, 2015 #14
    I found this old paper online last night:

    https://www.aarst.org/proceedings/1990/1990_09_Startling_Radon_Risk_Comparisons.pdf

    The point of it was to compare the dangers of radon gas to other dangers in a way that would get people's attention so they would radon-proof their homes. As it says, people are scared of nuclear power plants, but apathetic about radon. The author is not sure why, but wanted to put some ideas out about how to make people more frightened of radon, simply because the evidence is that it kills thousands a year.

    I think what's going on is that conspiracy theorists thrive on denial of the conspiracy by "authorities" and they lose interest when the announcement of danger is forthright and insistent. The thrill, for them, is in uncovering secrets someone is trying hard to hide. They don't get worked up about the dangers of radon because no one is trying to hide them, but the whole cell phone denial of danger has that sweet smell of "cover-up" that is so alluring.
     
  16. May 18, 2015 #15

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    I think it is simpler than that: with radon, there is no one to blame, so no one to benefit from covering-up the danger. That explains the lack of conspiracy theory.

    The "why people don't care" issue is broader and while it is probably partly the above, it is also likely just the fact that radon is a silent/latent danger.
     
  17. May 18, 2015 #16

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    I'm inclined toward Don Quixote syndrome as a motivation: nobly saving the world against the powers that be (ego gratification). If there are no windmills to conjure as dragons to slay (faux evil products), no ego gratification. Without dragons the Don might be forced to confront an absence of productive activity, i.e. actually designing or building phones, businesses, and, well, we can't have that. Unfortunately Berkeley has turned the tale on its head, embraced the crazy and put the Don in charge of the kingdom.
     
  18. May 18, 2015 #17

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    You are being unfair to the Ingenious Gentleman here, his quest may have been fanciful but it was nobly inspired : )
     
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