Bessel Functions - Eigenvalues + Eigenfunctions

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The discussion revolves around solving a standard form of Bessel's equation to find its eigenvalues and eigenfunctions, with specific initial conditions. There is confusion regarding the nature of eigenfunctions and eigenvalues, particularly whether Bessel functions can be considered as simple sine and cosine functions. Clarification is provided that while the eigenfunctions are indeed part of the general solution, the coefficients in the solution are not the eigenvalues; rather, the eigenvalues correspond to specific values derived from the differential equation. The participant expresses uncertainty about their approach and whether it aligns with the professor's expectations. Understanding the distinction between eigenfunctions and eigenvalues is crucial for accurately solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


I'm given a standard form of Bessel's equation, namely
x^2y\prime\prime + xy\prime + (\lambda x^2-\nu^2)y = 0
with \nu = \frac{1}{3} and \lambda some unknown constant, and asked to find its eigenvalues and eigenfunctions.

The initial conditions are y(0)=0 and y\prime (\pi)=0.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is a single question assignment, so it's supposed to be reasonably extensive. What troubles me is that as far as I know, with this being THE typical Bessel equation, aren't the eigenfunctions pretty much a given? (i.e. they will be one sine and one cosine function of \sqrt{\lambda} and x, right?)

***Check my understanding please; the eigenfunctions are the functions in the general solution, and the eigenvalues are their respective coefficients? For example if some simple equation has the solution y(x) = C_1 e^{ikx} + C_2 e^{-ikx} then the eigenfunctions are e^{\pm ikx} and the eigenvalues are C_1, C_2, right? ***

I mean I can derive them, but it's not particularly difficult, especially since we did it in class, which makes me wonder if it's really what the professor wants.

The eigenvalues I should be able to determine with the two initial conditions I'm given, I think. So mainly, I'm curious if I'm doing the right thing, or if I'm completely off base with my interpretation of the question.
 
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heilEuler said:
What troubles me is that as far as I know, with this being THE typical Bessel equation, aren't the eigenfunctions pretty much a given? (i.e. they will be one sine and one cosine function of \sqrt{\lambda} and x, right?)

Since when are Bessel functions just sines and cosines?

***Check my understanding please; the eigenfunctions are the functions in the general solution, and the eigenvalues are their respective coefficients? For example if some simple equation has the solution y(x) = C_1 e^{ikx} + C_2 e^{-ikx} then the eigenfunctions are e^{\pm ikx} and the eigenvalues are C_1, C_2, right? ***

Not quite, the eigenfunctions would be e^{\pm ikx}, but C_1 and C_2 are not the eigenvalues (they are just constant used to express the general solution as a linear combination of the two eigenfunctions). The eigenvalues are actually \pm ik.

Why? Well, the example general solution you give satisfies the differential equation y''(x)=-k^2 y(x). Compare that to the eigenvalue equation Av=\lambda v (Where, as usual, A is any linear operator, v one of its eigenfunctions, and \lambda the corresponding eigenvalue). The two eigenfunctions, v_{\pm}= e^{\pm ikx}, satisfy the equation \frac{d}{dx}v_{\pm}=\pm ik v_{\pm}. With \frac{d}{dx} being a linear operator, this is clearly an eigenvalue equation with eigenfunctions v_{\pm} and corresponding eigenvalues \pm ik
 
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