Bessel Functions - Eigenvalues + Eigenfunctions

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The discussion focuses on solving Bessel's equation in the form x²y'' + xy' + (λx² - ν²)y = 0, with ν = 1/3 and λ as an unknown constant. Participants clarify the definitions of eigenvalues and eigenfunctions, noting that eigenfunctions are derived from the general solution, while eigenvalues correspond to coefficients in the eigenvalue equation. The confusion arises from the assumption that Bessel functions are merely sine and cosine functions, which is incorrect; the actual eigenvalues are ±ik, derived from the linear operator applied to the eigenfunctions e^{±ikx}.

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Homework Statement


I'm given a standard form of Bessel's equation, namely
[tex]x^2y\prime\prime + xy\prime + (\lambda x^2-\nu^2)y = 0[/tex]
with [itex]\nu = \frac{1}{3}[/itex] and [itex]\lambda[/itex] some unknown constant, and asked to find its eigenvalues and eigenfunctions.

The initial conditions are [itex]y(0)=0[/itex] and [itex]y\prime (\pi)=0[/itex].

The Attempt at a Solution


This is a single question assignment, so it's supposed to be reasonably extensive. What troubles me is that as far as I know, with this being THE typical Bessel equation, aren't the eigenfunctions pretty much a given? (i.e. they will be one sine and one cosine function of [itex]\sqrt{\lambda}[/itex] and x, right?)

***Check my understanding please; the eigenfunctions are the functions in the general solution, and the eigenvalues are their respective coefficients? For example if some simple equation has the solution [tex]y(x) = C_1 e^{ikx} + C_2 e^{-ikx}[/tex] then the eigenfunctions are [itex]e^{\pm ikx}[/itex] and the eigenvalues are [itex]C_1, C_2[/itex], right? ***

I mean I can derive them, but it's not particularly difficult, especially since we did it in class, which makes me wonder if it's really what the professor wants.

The eigenvalues I should be able to determine with the two initial conditions I'm given, I think. So mainly, I'm curious if I'm doing the right thing, or if I'm completely off base with my interpretation of the question.
 
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heilEuler said:
What troubles me is that as far as I know, with this being THE typical Bessel equation, aren't the eigenfunctions pretty much a given? (i.e. they will be one sine and one cosine function of [itex]\sqrt{\lambda}[/itex] and x, right?)

Since when are Bessel functions just sines and cosines?

***Check my understanding please; the eigenfunctions are the functions in the general solution, and the eigenvalues are their respective coefficients? For example if some simple equation has the solution [tex]y(x) = C_1 e^{ikx} + C_2 e^{-ikx}[/tex] then the eigenfunctions are [itex]e^{\pm ikx}[/itex] and the eigenvalues are [itex]C_1, C_2[/itex], right? ***

Not quite, the eigenfunctions would be [itex]e^{\pm ikx}[/itex], but [itex]C_1[/itex] and [itex]C_2[/itex] are not the eigenvalues (they are just constant used to express the general solution as a linear combination of the two eigenfunctions). The eigenvalues are actually [itex]\pm ik[/itex].

Why? Well, the example general solution you give satisfies the differential equation [itex]y''(x)=-k^2 y(x)[/itex]. Compare that to the eigenvalue equation [itex]Av=\lambda v[/itex] (Where, as usual, [itex]A[/itex] is any linear operator, [itex]v[/itex] one of its eigenfunctions, and [itex]\lambda[/itex] the corresponding eigenvalue). The two eigenfunctions, [itex]v_{\pm}= e^{\pm ikx}[/itex], satisfy the equation [itex]\frac{d}{dx}v_{\pm}=\pm ik v_{\pm}[/itex]. With [itex]\frac{d}{dx}[/itex] being a linear operator, this is clearly an eigenvalue equation with eigenfunctions [itex]v_{\pm}[/itex] and corresponding eigenvalues [itex]\pm ik[/itex]
 

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