Best way to prepare for college math

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the best ways to prepare for college-level mathematics, particularly in light of inadequate prior education in pre-calculus. Participants share their experiences and resources, including online platforms like Khan Academy, while expressing concerns about their mathematical foundations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their lack of preparation due to a poor school environment and seeks advice on additional resources beyond Khan Academy and a "Dummies" guide.
  • Another participant argues that pre-calculus is largely a review of algebra and basic introductions to functions and logarithms, suggesting that if one is proficient in algebra and trigonometry, calculus should not be a significant challenge.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of practicing problems extensively to build confidence and skills in mathematics.
  • One participant shares their experience of not taking a formal pre-calculus class but successfully progressing through college-level math courses, indicating that pre-calculus may not be as essential as commonly perceived.
  • A participant who recently completed a college pre-calculus course confirms that it consisted mainly of algebra and trigonometry, aligning with previous claims about the course content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that pre-calculus may not be a critical prerequisite for success in calculus, with multiple views on the necessity and content of pre-calculus courses. However, there is no consensus on the best preparation methods, as individual experiences and recommendations vary.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that their prior education was lacking due to various circumstances, such as teacher absences and a non-traditional learning environment, which may affect their preparation strategies.

Timothy Stevens
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Hello again I'm the guy who asked a couple weeks ago about the fact I didn't take pre calc.

A new question is how the best to way to prepare for college math; right now I am using the dummies guide and Khan's academy with everything thing from algebra 1 to precalc as the school I am in isn't really a good school to learn. as it turns out we don't have a precalc class it's kind of combined with the trig class one might say . Due to the fact the students decide if we learn or not we only learn 1 day out of the week and most of the teacher tell us the answers during the test so we have good grades.

So is their anything else I can do to help me prepare since I'm worried (As I'm learning that school really didn't teach me anything)
 
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I say this all the time, but precalc is a joke. What Khan Academy for instance assigns to "Pre-calculus" is actually stuff you learn in the beginning of a high school calculus class, such as limits. The stuff I learned in precalc in my high school was largely a review of prior algebra classes, and introductions to certain rules of functions and logarithms. So you're not missing much. If you are already good at algebra and know how to use trig functions and identities then calculus won't be an issue. The calculus involved in solving a calculus problem is really just one or two steps, and the rest is algebra. If your algebra isn't good, you'll be in trouble. So Khan academy is good for those exercises and problems that'll sharpen your skills. Which brings you your answer: just do problems. Lots of them. That's all it takes.
 
I am enjoying the Khan academy exorcises though I admit though some may consider it embarrassing I am essentially doing all the courses Algebra 1&2, Geometry&Trig ,and Precalc as there is stuff in all of those which I didn't learn at school for the reasons above not to mention our main teacher for Algebra 1 and Geometry ended up missing half the year which really slowed progress down in class.

Though I feel a bit overwhelmed at what I consider catch up I still have half a year before college.
 
Timothy Stevens said:
I am enjoying the Khan academy exorcises though I admit though some may consider it embarrassing I am essentially doing all the courses Algebra 1&2, Geometry&Trig ,and Precalc as there is stuff in all of those which I didn't learn at school for the reasons above not to mention our main teacher for Algebra 1 and Geometry ended up missing half the year which really slowed progress down in class.

There's nothing embarrassing about it. There's plenty of little things that I don't know and I'm taking college math classes. Just keep working through those courses and you'll be fine.
 
The idea of a "pre-calc" class is a bit misunderstood. Pre-calc is nothing but algebra and trig. Some pre-calc courses go through a basic development of limits, but this is something that is typically also fully developed from the ground up in calc I. I never took pre-calc. I took college algebra, then trigonometry, and then calc I and onward. I've now completed calc I, calc II, differential equations, and linear algebra. Calc III is next semester. I've scored at the top of my math classes every semester, despite never taking "pre-calc."

A lot of people have the idea that pre-calc is somehow different or necessary. It's really nothing more than elements of college algebra and trigonometry rolled into one course, with less depth in each individual topic.
 
I just finished Pre-calc in college and it was basically what QuantumCurt said it was. Algebra+trig with a bit of geometry rolled into one class.
 

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